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lisey97
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Looking for "Inmate" records for this 'school'. Does anyone know where they might be held? I have three people on the 1871 census listed as inmates (Heny Eggleton, Sidney Eggleton, and Eliza Eggleton) and need more info as to their parentage and admittance to school. I know Sidney was one of the Home Children sent to Canada and have more data on this side but I need the records from the school, and associated hospital, to find their parents etc. Any help or direction would be appreciated.
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Hi Lisey,
Welcome to RootsChat 
there is a site here: http://www.missing-ancestors.com/
with details of Industrial Schools.
Click on the list of schools (SCHOOLS) and then search for Brighton.
they mention
* BRIGHTON TOWN AND LONDON COUNTY COUNCIL INDUSTRIAL SCHOOL FOR BOYS, PORTSLADE BY SEA, NR BRIGHTON, SUSSEX.
LATER RENAMED
* Portslade Industrial School, Portslade, Hove, Sussex
If that's the one you are looking for, then it also tells you were the records are.
Good luck,
Bob
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sillgen
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Presumably you know their ages from the 1871 census so you should be able to find the birth registrations on the GRO index. They all say born Brighton so with luck the birth was registered somewhere in Sussex. You can search it online at various paying sites or ask for a look up. They do not seem to appear on FreeBMD.
Andrea
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kizmiaz
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I had a look for the birth records and they don't seem to be listed, or if they I couldn't see them under the name Eggleton.
It possible that the Brighton Industrial School may have been located in what is now Woodingdean, a 'suburb' of Brighton a few miles out of town. It was demolished in the 80s or 90s to make way for a Nuffield hospital. At one stage it was known as the Warren Farm school. If you look at this site (http://www.workhouses.org.uk/index.html?Brighton/Brighton.shtml) it has a map listing it as Warren Farm Schools (Industrial)
Unfortunately it looks like the records for the school are more recent than you require, with 1877 being the earliest listed date held at East Sussex Record Office. They may still be worth a try though.
Glen
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I agree with Woodingdean, I believe they had farms and workshops as well as the well to dig. Pete
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lisey97
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Thanks for all of the replies and interest. This search certainly has always been a difficult one. As far as the Brighton Industrial School goes I do believe that this changed to Warrens Farm but in 1871 is was still listed as Brighton Industrial School and the district was Rottingdean. Adding to the confusion is the fact that, as of yet, I can find no birth records for these three Eggletons at all. I have even been searching in Surrey and Berkshire as I have reason to believe that there may be a connection to these other counties. I know that "Sidney" is actually Charles Sidney Eggleton who was sent to Canada in 1871 as one the "Home Children" and I am trying to gather more info from this connection hoping it will give me more searchable info. I can speculate on quite a bit (including parentage) but really need a bit more proof. Any ideas as to what to do next would be greatly appreciated.
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sillgen
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It is worth a search of the 1861 census as they should be there. Bit late now but I will look tomorrow if nobody finds them overnight! I was quite surrised how old they were - I had thought they would be younger.
Andrea
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Roy G
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Can you give us the children's ages in 1871, it would certainly help, especially if they appear under a variation of the family name (like Iggelton)
By the way, the Industrial school was only a few years old in 1871, so if the children had been supported by the parish a few years earlier than that, their records could have been amongst the long lost ones of the old Dyke Road Workhouse.
Roy G
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Sidney is 14, Henry 12 and Eliza 10. All born Brighton. I can't find them elsewhere at the moment.
Andrea
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lisey97
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This has been a bit of a mystery. The three are listed on the 1871 census as 'inmates' but I can, as of yet, find no other earlier records confirming d.o.b. or parentage. I know that Henry is my great-grandfather and I do have info from 1881 census and later and we have discovered that "Sidney" was Charles Sidney Eggleton who was sent to Canada in 1871, not long after the UK census, as part of a group of Home Children through the Brighton Emigration Society. I am currently waiting for more details and documentation from Archives Canada regarding Sidney which may help with further searching. I believe I found Eliza who is listed as Iggleton on the 1881 census as a scullery maid but this needs to be confirmed.
I won't give up and I don't mind digging and searching, I just need a bit more direction at this point. Thanks to everyone for all of the info provided so far. It has opened up a few avenues for searching and is at least giving me some hope of finding something worthwhile.
Valerie
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lisey97
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I was not aware of the connection to the old Dyke Road workhouse and its "lost records". Something to look into. Thanks Roy
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sillgen
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Is Henry the one married to Ada in later census? Birth once as Hove but otherwise as Brighton each time and born c1860ish?
Have you looked for their marriage? There is one in 1883 for Henry Haswell Eggleton in Uckfield. Site keeps crashing though so I cannot look for possible brides.
Andrea
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Possible brides are Ada Ellen Cottington or Mary Sinden.
Phil
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sillgen
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So a possible then! Do you know the maiden name of his wife, lisey97? The certificate may show father's name and occupation - unless they were orphaned very young and never knew their parents. Though Sidney is older so should have been more aware.
Andrea
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lisey97
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Thanks for looking everyone. Henry Haswell Eggleton did in fact marry Ada Ellen Cottington. She was in service at the Donovans Mansion in Blackboys and he was a Grocer's Assistant. The story is that they met when Henry delivered a grocery order to the Donovan family while they were "in town". In fact two of the Donovan children stood as witnesses. I have their marriage certificate and have tried to search further back from the info on it. I think I need to have another look though. Henry's father's name was Charles but I can find nothing else. Sidney(Charles Sidney) told his children that his father accompanied him to Canada when he came over and he listed Charles and Elizabeth as his parents' names on his marriage info. We think he didn't want his children to know that he was one of the Home Children because there are absolutely no records of a Charles Sr. There is an Elizabeth Eggleton listed on the 1861 census in Brighton. 24 years old, lodger and listed as Married, but no husband. I'd like to find more info on her because this leads me to believe that the father may have died and she was alone and gave up her children?? Longshot?? At least it's something to think about.
Sorry this is such a long post. It's just all so interesting and I really haven't had any time for over a year to look at this and all of this searching has me pumped up again. Thanks to all of you for your interest.
Valerie
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