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Kate Amelia Pragnell
« on: Tuesday 15 April 08 16:35 BST (UK) »

Can anyone help me please?
I am looking for a Kate Amelia Pragnell, born 1861 on the Isle of Wight in Arreton, to Mark and Catherine Pra(n)gnell (nee Williams).
I have found Kate A on the 1871 census aged 9, but after that I can't find her on any other census, I have looked on the Isle of Wight Family History Society BMD and there is no listing of a marriage, or death for her, so where has she gone?
Any help or information greatfully received.
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Re: Kate Amelia Pragnell
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 15 April 08 16:59 BST (UK) »

Hi

What about the Kate PRAGNELL married (one of the two possible spouses) Thomas Edmund BULL Isle of Wight registration district March quarter 1881 ref. 2b 789 http://freebmd.rootsweb.com

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Warburton Hotel, 27 Quay St, Newport, Isle of Wight

Thomas E BULL steward? mar 46 hotel keeper b.Newport I of Wight
Kate A wife 19 (birth place looks rather like Merston) I of Wight
Elizabeth M dau 3/5 b.Newport I of Wight
+ some servants

RG11/1175 folio 64 page 16

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Re: Kate Amelia Pragnell
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 15 April 08 17:02 BST (UK) »

Hi,

   I have found 2 marriages on FreeBMD. Maybe one of these is your Kate.

  March 1881 Kate Pragnell to either James Jacob Abbott or Thomas Edmund Bull in IOW
       Vol 2b Page 789

 Sep 1882 Kate Pragnell to Joseph Duncan Shilling or William Alfred S Sweetman in IOW
        Vol 2b Page 961

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Re: Kate Amelia Pragnell
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 15 April 08 17:09 BST (UK) »

http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=2438319 - son of Thomas Edmund and Kate Amelia Bull, born about 1881, died in the navy in WWII.
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Re: Kate Amelia Pragnell
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 15 April 08 19:09 BST (UK) »

Hi Sue,
Thank you for your info of the marriages for Kate Pragnell, but checking on the Isle of Wight Family History Society BMD James Jacob Abbott married Emily A Salter in 1881 and Joseph Duncan Shilling married Mary J Woodford in 1882.

and thanks also to Casalguidi for your information re Thomas E Bull, yes I did suspect this as a possibility but when I inquired at the Isle of Wight Registrar Office they said that the father of Kate on the marriage certificate did not match the 'Mark Pragnell' who was Kate Amelia's father, but saying that Kate was born in Arreton, which Merstone is part of!!!! confused.com!!!

where is the web site so i can look up and get a copy of the 1881 entry for the Warburton Hotel in Newport for myself.  Also my Kate was born in 1861 so she would have been 19, which is about the right age!

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Re: Kate Amelia Pragnell
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 16 April 08 12:01 BST (UK) »

Hi Lin

This looks like Kate in the later census .............

1891

56 George Street, Ryde, Isle of Wight

Kate A BULL servant married 29 housekeeper (domestic) b.Arreton as a living in servant

RG12/890 folio 83 page 4
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1891

14 Field Place, Carisbrooke, Hampshire

William H HARVIE head mar 39 painter b.Newport Isle of Wight
Fanny wife 41 b.Calbourne I of W
Harry John BENNETT step son 7 b.Brook I of W
Thomas E BULL lodger mar 62 b.Newport I of W
Tom BULL lodger 11 b.Newport I of W

RG12/887 folio 91 page 14
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1901

192 St Thomas's Square, Ryde, Isle of Wight

Kate A BULL head widow 40 housekeeper b.Merstone - it looks like she was keeping house for 15 or so draper's assistants.

RG13/1024 folio 16 page 24

Looking at Jorose's find (above) of a Harry BULL who died WW2 would confirm that the wife of Thomas Edmund BULL did have the middle name of Amelia - it certainly does look like it is the correct marriage doesn't it Huh

There is a Harry BULL (birthdate and place given as 30 May 1881 Newport) in the online Royal Navy service records http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/royal-navy-service.asp but I doubt there would be anything on the service record to confirm whether it is the right chap or not - I couldn't see him in 1891 Undecided

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Re: Kate Amelia Pragnell
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 16 April 08 12:16 BST (UK) »

Hello Casalguidi,

Many thanks indeed for all your help in trying to help me find Kate Amelia Pragnell's whereabouts.

Every thing is pointing to the fact that she did marry Thomas Edmund Bull.

I have just got on to the Isle of Wight Registrar office again, there is a lady there who is very kind and helpful, so I have just asked her again if she can confirm the father on the marriage certificate.

I have also just sent off for Kate's birth certificate to see if that throws any more light on the subject.

will let you know!
regards Lin
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