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regqueenie
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Re: Kings Own Scottish Borderers, 25th regiment foot
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 08 October 09 12:19 UTC (UK) »
I noticed Ken on the website the letters 2/25 Regiment of foot.  Does this mean the second battallion of the 25th Regiment of foot, and because it was in 1861, does it mean it was as you stated, the 25 (The York) Regiment of foot. I wonder if he was based in Yorkshire at any time...not that it matters, you have already said the name was not that important before 1881 as regiments were filled with Irish and picked up men wherever they were. i just wondered why he jumped at the York and not the Royal Irish Regiment if he was in Galway at the time. But there again I need to do a course in history so as not to show my ignorance, as his son enlisted in the Connaught Rangers and he may well have also been in them at one point, and oerhaps they were not the same as the Royal Irish (were they fighting for the Queen? oh dear I had better stop asking silly questions and not be so lazy and read a book or two on religion etc in Ireland) anyway, a special thanks for taking the trouble to get back to me earlier Ken and will await anything you may come accross, if you havent lost patience with me that is!   Regina Huh
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Re: Kings Own Scottish Borderers, 25th regiment foot
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 08 October 09 20:03 UTC (UK) »
Hi Regina

Yes, 2/25 means the 2nd Battalion. They had 'The York' in the title from 1870 to 1881. They had a Depot in York at the time so a number of recruits would have come from that area. But with the railways they could pick up recruits anywhere. As I said my GGF enlisted in Gosport.

Even before the railways, a regiment in Kent would send recruiting parties to Scotland. You cannot use geography to identify a regiment.

Ken
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Re: Kings Own Scottish Borderers, 25th regiment foot
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 08 October 09 20:44 UTC (UK) »
I'm skipping through this thread but have you tried writing to the KOSB at Berwick upon Tweed
My grandfather was in the KOSB's and I managed to find out where he might have been in the 1914- 18 war

Regimental Headquarters
The Kings Own Scottish Borderers
The Barracks
Berwick upon Tweed
TD15 1DG

Telephone
01289307436 fax 01289331928
e-mail kosbmus@milnet.uk.net

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Re: Kings Own Scottish Borderers, 25th regiment foot
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 12 November 09 12:49 UTC (UK) »
I'm trying to find out what happened to an ancestor of mine who I understand to have been a Private in the 25th Foot. John Connor was born circa 1841, and married Marion Darrach in Calton Glasgow 29/6/1868. His address is given on the marriage cert as The Barracks, Glasgow.

They had a duaghter Mary born circa 1870/71 but likely returned to Glasgow. According to later census returns for Mary, she was born in India. John died sometime before 1891 (the year Mary was married).

I'm having real trouble finding out what happened to John as I cant seem to find him on any scottish records after 1868. Did he die in India?

Any help gratefully received.

Alasdair Smith
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Re: Kings Own Scottish Borderers, 25th regiment foot
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 12 November 09 18:19 UTC (UK) »
Hi Alasdair

It was the 1st Battalion that was in Glasgow in 1868, having returned from Canada the previous year. They moved around the British Isles until Oct 1875 when they moved to India. The 2nd Battalion were in Ceylon/India from 1863 to 1876, so it looks as if he was transferred to the 2nd Bn in time for his daughter’s birth

If he died in service they would have routinely destroyed his record after 20 years. But the best next step would be to see if his service record survives in Kew. If you cannot visit and do not wish to pay a researcher, you will have to wait to see if Findmypast put it online (due ‘by 2011’). How it is filed will depend upon when he was discharged – http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/militaryhistory/army/step4.htm

Most men were discharged 12 years after enlistment, so were aged between the ages of 30 and 35 depending upon when they enlisted.  Service before the age of 18 did not count. His service record will give you an outline of him and his service, but it probably will not give details of his wife and children.

If his record does not survive you can follow his service using the Muster Books (WO12) in Kew, starting with the one for the 1st Bn in 1868 and working backwards until he enlisted; and then working forwards from the 2nd Bn muster for 1870-71 until he dies or is discharged. You may be lucky as they started to include details of the marriage roll – wife’s forename and ages of any children – in the musters from around this period. His first entry may give his parish of birth, and/or where he enlisted and maybe his age.

Ken
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