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Hodge Frederick
« on: Wednesday 16 April 08 04:19 BST (UK) »

Hello to everyone Iam back once again with another ancestor of mine. Found out information about a Frederick Hodge from Faversham Kent England, he married a Phillis Lydia Woodger Simmonds from England on the 21/6/1858 and he passed away also in Australia on the 29/6/1912 his occupation was a storeman according to his marriage certificate his parents are listed as a Henry Hodge and Eliza Harris, Phillis's parents are also listed as a Thomas Simmonds and Hannah Long, this is great when you discover this usually the parents are listed on the death certificate. Is anyone familiar with this family. Keep safe.

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Re: Hodge Frederick
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 16 April 08 05:45 BST (UK) »

Janet

The IGI at www.familysearch.org has a few girls baptised to a Henry and Eliza HODGE at Faversham in the 1830s. These are extracted entries, and it looks like only the girls have been done. There is a Frederick there as well but it is a submitted entry, and should not be fully trusted. You can order the microfilms of the parish records through your local LDS FHC.

The IGI has Phillis baptised at Maidstone on 12 Jul 1835, along with a number of siblings.

Someone else may be able to find them in the census for you as well.

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Re: Hodge Frederick
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 16 April 08 08:03 BST (UK) »

Is this the family in 1841?

Class: HO107/472/18 Folio 32 Page 14
Living Oyster Court, Faversham
Henry HODGE age 30 a mariner
Eliza age 30
children
Hephzebah 7
Fredrick 5
Onslow 2
Tamor 3mths all born in Kent
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Re: Hodge Frederick
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 16 April 08 08:10 BST (UK) »

and the SIMMONDS family

Class: HO107/490/8 Folio 21 Page 12
lving Week Street, Maidstone
Thos SIMMONDS 41  ??Fossilist (where born left blank)
Hannah 40
Thos 17
James 13
Phillis 8
Agnes 5
Sophia 3
Wm 1
All born in Kent
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Re: Hodge Frederick
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 16 April 08 08:12 BST (UK) »

One of the children on the IGI was a Tamar, baptised in 1845, obviously more than an infant, but looks certain to be the same family, an extracted record. Also some submitted ones with Fredrick and Onslow.

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Re: Hodge Frederick
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 16 April 08 08:33 BST (UK) »

By 1851 Hannah SIMMONDS is widowed

HO107/1617 folio 23 page 17
living Bone Alley, Maidstone (how apropriate is that,  given her occupation  Grin)
Hannah SIMMONDS age 50 dealer in fossils (?lic)
Sophia age 13 scholar
William 10
Alfred 8
all born Maidstone

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Beaulieu/Boldre, Hants - Woodford, Croutear, Beck, Bendell, Keeping, Harding
Kent - Bayly, Borer, Mitchell, Plane, Vernon, Farrance, Chapman, Medhurst, Lomax, Wyatt
Devon - Tope, Bickford, Foster
YKS - Quirk, McGuire, Benn
Nott/Derbs - Slack
Hert - Barnes
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Re: Hodge Frederick
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 16 April 08 23:43 BST (UK) »

Thanks Bearkat and Eyesee for your great help this information will fill in the blank lines. I hope that you all have a safe day.

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Re: Hodge Frederick
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 19 April 08 23:52 BST (UK) »

Hello everyone I hope that you are having a safe weekend. Would like help in finding immigration records to find out when Frederick Hodge and Phillis L.W. Simmonds came to Australia this is a big area to search in and if they were young may have come with other families.

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Re: Hodge Frederick
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 20 April 08 00:15 BST (UK) »

Jan

Suggest you post a message in the Australian Immigrant section of RC.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,165.0.html

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Re: Hodge Frederick
« Reply #9 on: Friday 02 May 08 05:55 BST (UK) »

Hello Eyesee, Thanks for your help found a entry in the IGI for the parents of Henry Hodge baptised on the 13 August 1815 Benenden Kent England , father George Hodge and mother Mary, anyone knowing the family in this area, have a good and safe weekend everyone.

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Re: Hodge Frederick
« Reply #10 on: Friday 02 May 08 07:56 BST (UK) »

The Henry HODGE from Benenden may be yours, but I don't think you can be sure. Huh

As he was a mariner it is likely that he was brought up near the sea.  He could have moved there, of course.

There are no parish records for Faversham in the early 1800s on the IGI so it may be that your Henry HODGE has not been included yet.
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Beaulieu/Boldre, Hants - Woodford, Croutear, Beck, Bendell, Keeping, Harding
Kent - Bayly, Borer, Mitchell, Plane, Vernon, Farrance, Chapman, Medhurst, Lomax, Wyatt
Devon - Tope, Bickford, Foster
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Hert - Barnes
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Re: Hodge Frederick
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 03 May 08 08:18 BST (UK) »

Hello Bearkat, thanks for your reply to my message regarding Henry Hodge, apparently he married around 1833 Kent England to a Eliza S. Harris also in the IGI his son Frederick came out to Australia and is listed being a passenger in the Mariner Vessels not by the State Records of N.S.W.  Huh I hope that Iam getting somewhere its hard from here. Have a good weekend.

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Re: Hodge Frederick
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 03 May 08 08:44 BST (UK) »

The Faversham Society might be able to help.

http://www.faversham.org/pages/directory_item.aspx?i_PageID=11941

There is a £10 charge for family history queries. Undecided
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Kent - Bayly, Borer, Mitchell, Plane, Vernon, Farrance, Chapman, Medhurst, Lomax, Wyatt
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Re: Hodge Frederick
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 03 May 08 09:04 BST (UK) »

1851 - 4 Oxford Street, St Dunstan Stepney, Middlesex (London)

Eliza S HODGE head wid 39 seamstress b.Faversham Kent
Hepzibah dau unm 16 seamstress b.Faversham Kent
Onslow G son 12 b.Faversham Kent
Tammar dau 10 b.Faversham Kent
Harriet R dau 7 b.Faversham Kent
Henry son 5 b.Faversham Kent
Emma dau 3 b.Faversham Kent
Rachel BLINKHORN sister unm 28 seamstress b.Faversham Kent
Henry HARRIS visitor unmm 26 farmer's son b.Hanover Germany

HO107/1552 folio 431 page 73
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1851 - 16 King St, Margate, Kent

Anthony MARTEN head mar 48 master fisherman employing 1 apprentice b.Faversham
Mary Ann wife 47 b.Faversham
Frederick HODGES serv? 15 apprentice b.Faversham
John V MUSSARED visitor unm 37 bricklayer b.Margate?
John ROGERS visitor unm 16 fisherman b.Faversham

HO107/1629 folio 368 page 24
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Possible sisters of Frederick in 1861:

1861 - 2 Crescent Place, St John Margate, Kent

Mary A MARTEN head wid 56 lodging house keeper b.Faversham
Emma HODGE niece 13 b.Faversham
Richard MARTEN brother wid 50 mariner b.Faversham
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James MUSSARED lodger unm  49 bricklayer emp. 7 men b.Margate

RG9/535 folio 17 page 29
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1861 - 21 Fort Crescent, St John Margate, Kent

Hannah SHRUBSALL dau 4 b.Margate
William W son 2 b.Margate
Harriett R HODGE niece unm 17 servant b.Faversham
Sarah J EASTLAND servant unm 17 servant b.Margate

No parents are listed - perhaps the enumerator was having a bad day as the end of the preceding page doesn't quite tally either Undecided

RG9/535 folio 20 page 36

Unfortunately Henry HODGE has died by 1851 but given that Eliza says she was born in Faversham (1851 census), Faverhsham would be a good place to start looking for their marriage.  Furthermore, there are other relatives mentioned in both the 1851 and 1861 census extracts that I have listed - these should be helpful in tracing the family back and establish family relationships.

If the IGI entries are "submitted" rather than "extracted" then they need to be treated with caution and verified - they have been submitted by somebody (like you or I) and could be guesswork.

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Re: Hodge Frederick
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 03 May 08 09:48 BST (UK) »

1841
Oyster Court, Faversham
Richard HODGE, 40, Mariner, yes
Ann HODGE, 40, yes
next house Henry and Eliza and family as found by Bearkat

A brother perhaps.

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