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hiraeth
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Might Thomas be Ann's husband?
Cherrian
I suppose anything is possible. Robert & Anne married in 1810. There is also a Maurice Roberts baptised April 8, 1816. So I think both he and Ann did not survive. Have checked Llandygai and Pentir burials but nothing shows up there. So they must be buried at Bangor or they were just not in the will. More likely dead though as RR appears to be trying to portion out everything equally.
Something else has occurred to me. In 1841 Zachariah is a "shop man". In 1851 he is a "Linen Draper" . There is a Thomas Roberts who was a draper mentioned as a share owner and also listed in several of the Bangor trade directories. I'll have to find him on the censuses to check out his age. Perhaps he is the missing Thomas?
I found Richard Williams listed on Reg Davies siteborn 1816 - died at Bangor 1852 (only age 36). Also a listing for a First mate Robert Williams - 2mths old in 1841 - who was apparently the son of Margaret & Richard. He and mother Margaret are next door to Zachariah & his mother Anne at Roberts Square in 1841 and 1851. Reg states that he was the son of mariner Richard Williams of Hirael and the grandson of a Thomas Williams. Not sure where he found that out. He says he was listed at Garth Street Bangor in 1876 but I haven't found him on the 1881.
Such a shame the Gale free newspaper access is finished. Wish I had discovered more of this while I still had access!
Heather
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukCARRINGTON, ROBERTS, WILLIAMS, FOULKES, WYNN, BLUNT, JONES Denbighshire. DAVIES, OWEN, JONES, WILLIAMS, THOMAS, EVANS, MORGAN, SOLOMAN, GRIFFITHS Caernarfonshire & Anglesey THATCHER, HILLIER, PARISH Surrey APPLETON, MALTHOUSE, GLOVER Hertfordshire MCDONALD & SOUPER Aberdeen c1800 |
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Cherrian
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Hi Heather
The Gale database is a new one to me but it looks really useful - glad you mentioned it. I have written to the publishers to find out whether and where it can be accessed by individuals.
I have a trip to Colindale on my research to do list, although it may not happen for a while. Is there anything in particular you want to know from local newspapers?
Eryl
Have now heard back from publishers and the database is available at the British Library and the Guildhall Library in the City of London.
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hiraeth
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Hi Cherrian/Eryl
I will have to ask the Gale press if there is access at a library here in Vancouver. Perhaps they will have another online free access period eventually. The decades of North Wales Chronicle newspapers alone were an absolute gem to read. They form part of the British Library collection.
Thank you very much for offering to look at local newspapers etc. but I can't think of anything specific at the moment - other than the death of Capt Richard Williams Mar 23, 1852. Since he died at only 36 it would be interesting to learn if the death was accidental or natural cause.
I was able to find the obits/notices for my 3x great grandparents John & Eleanor Roberts (uncle & aunt of Zachariah) and their daughter, my 2x great gm Elizabeth Roberts/Davies/Jones(!) as well as the marriage of their grandson, my great grandfather David Davies so consider myself very fortunate to get that far. I'm not sure but I think I did check for Zachariah at the time - in any event I didn't find anything. Always difficult to tell for sure when searching databases in case the spelling or dates are off which can end with a nil result even though the info is there somewhere!
I just thoroughly enjoyed being able to discover snippets like the fashion segment in the same edition as my great grandparents marriage was announced in 1859 - enabled one to visualize the event somehow.
Heather
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukCARRINGTON, ROBERTS, WILLIAMS, FOULKES, WYNN, BLUNT, JONES Denbighshire. DAVIES, OWEN, JONES, WILLIAMS, THOMAS, EVANS, MORGAN, SOLOMAN, GRIFFITHS Caernarfonshire & Anglesey THATCHER, HILLIER, PARISH Surrey APPLETON, MALTHOUSE, GLOVER Hertfordshire MCDONALD & SOUPER Aberdeen c1800 |
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Cherrian
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Hi Heather
I'll be going to the Guildhall next Wednesday and will check out the Gale database.
As a matter of interest, was John Roberts the brother of Robert Roberts? Is that the link? Do you know who their parents were? On the Zachariah front, his name seems to appear in a slightly variant form just about every time it crops up, which makes searching for him tricky.
I'm looking forward to seeing the NWC now - you've whetted my appetite with your comments!
Cherrian (aka Eryl!)
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Hi Cherrian/Eryl
I will send you a PM (personal message)
Heather
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukCARRINGTON, ROBERTS, WILLIAMS, FOULKES, WYNN, BLUNT, JONES Denbighshire. DAVIES, OWEN, JONES, WILLIAMS, THOMAS, EVANS, MORGAN, SOLOMAN, GRIFFITHS Caernarfonshire & Anglesey THATCHER, HILLIER, PARISH Surrey APPLETON, MALTHOUSE, GLOVER Hertfordshire MCDONALD & SOUPER Aberdeen c1800 |
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