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1861 census look up
« on: Wednesday 16 April 08 14:34 UTC (UK) »

Looking for the birthplace of Margaret Hepburn who died at Prinlaws, Leslie, Fife in 1864 aged 85 yrs. She was a widow, maiden name Hay.
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Re: 1861 census look up
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 16 April 08 16:42 UTC (UK) »

Sancti

She is not showing in Fife under either Hepburn or Hay (I've double checked on SP to make sure I'm not missing it on the (mis  Roll Eyes) transcriptons.

Any more info on her (is this David Hepburn's wife that Tom is trying to track down?)

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Re: 1861 census look up
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 16 April 08 18:56 UTC (UK) »

Yes Monica, she is the widow of David Hepburn who is on her DC as a Bleacher. They were married on 15 Feb 1815 at Leslie, Fife.

Her son William was the informant

I think her husband David died pre 1855
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Re: 1861 census look up
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 16 April 08 20:21 UTC (UK) »

I cant see her on any census  Huh
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Re: 1861 census look up
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 16 April 08 21:23 UTC (UK) »

Sancti

I thought I had found David and Margaret together in 1841 with a son John living in Orwell, Kinross but he is down as a smith. I cannot easily see another David and Margaret combination that year, or a Margaret Hepburn/Hay that stands out. 

In 1851, the David Hepburn from Orwell is alone with son John.  There is however a Margaret Hepburn that might connect with the occupation you gave for David. She is showing as living alone on the index

Margaret Hepburn, 63, Pauper Ind Husband Was A Hand Loom Weaver, b. Orwell Kinross
Address: Duncrivie, Arngask, Kinross

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Re: 1861 census look up
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 16 April 08 21:52 UTC (UK) »

 Smiley This might be Margaret in 1861, down as HEBURN (also on SP as such)

Margaret Heburn 78, b. Crook of Devon, Kinrosshire
Elizabeth Heburn 18, granddaughter, linen weaver, b. Leslie

Address: Coalgate, Dysart, Fife
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Re: 1861 census look up
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 16 April 08 21:55 UTC (UK) »

I wonder if Elizabeth is daughter of Andrew? From 1851, everyone showing as born in Leslie except wife Elizabeth:

Andrew Hepburn    35
Elizabeth Hepburn 33, b. Aberdeen
Ann Hepburn 12
Margaret Hepburn 11
Elizabeth Hepburn 8
Janet Hepburn    6
David Hepburn    4

Address: No 25 High Street, Kirkaldy
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Re: 1861 census look up
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 16 April 08 22:00 UTC (UK) »

Other son William most likely in 1861, who reported mother Margaret's death.  Everyone showing as born in Leslie.

William Hepburn 42, carter
Mary Hepburn    42
Margaret Hepburn 10
James Hepburn    8
Euphemia Hepburn 6

Address: Leslie, fife
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Re: 1861 census look up
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 16 April 08 22:04 UTC (UK) »

Does this birth entry match up with the details on Margaret's DC for parents?

MARGARET HAY     Christening:  23 APR 1783  Fossoway And Tulliebole, Kinross, Scotland
Parents:JOHN HAY and JANET M.
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Re: 1861 census look up
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 16 April 08 22:11 UTC (UK) »

Yes Monica that looks like her BC. Her mother was Janet More but William didnt know her fathers first name
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Re: 1861 census look up
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 16 April 08 22:20 UTC (UK) »

I've just found her actual entry in 1851, I think, based on what we now know:

Margret Hepburn 66, b. Devon, Clackmannanshire
John Hepburn    24, master tailor, b. Leslie

Address: Cross Wynd, Dysart
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Re: 1861 census look up
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 16 April 08 22:26 UTC (UK) »

And the names of the children of David and Margaret:

1   11/12/1815   HEPBURN   ANDREW   Leslie (Fife)   /FIFE   444/ 0020 0243   
2   11/08/1817   HEPBURN   WILLIAM   Leslie (Fife)   /FIFE   444/ 0020 0255
3   03/08/1819   HEPBURN   JANET   Leslie (Fife)   /FIFE   444/ 0020 0279   
4   26/05/1821   HEPBURN   DAVID   Leslie (Fife)   /FIFE   444/ 0040 0020   
5   10/03/1824   HEPBURN   JAMES   Leslie (Fife)   /FIFE   444/ 0040 0039   
6   12/09/1830   HEPBURN   JOHN   Leslie (Fife)   /FIFE   444/ 0040 0118   
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Re: 1861 census look up
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 16 April 08 22:40 UTC (UK) »

Thats great Monica, I think you have solved the puzzle.
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Re: 1861 census look up
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 16 April 08 22:42 UTC (UK) »

Tom should be up and awake by now  Cool Roll Eyes

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Re: 1861 census look up
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 16 April 08 22:50 UTC (UK) »

Tom should be up and awake by now  Cool Roll Eyes

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Last spotted on the Kinross board when all the action was here  Grin Grin
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