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Re: SOWERBY, William 1841 1851 1861
« Reply #15 on: Friday 18 April 08 16:36 BST (UK) »
Hi  Kiwi,

I am a direct decendant of William 1810 through his son James. There is also a connection with Sri Lanka as my Aunt served with the Red Cross in WW2 in what was then Ceylon.

How did you find all the siblings?

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Re: SOWERBY, William 1841 1851 1861
« Reply #16 on: Friday 18 April 08 17:08 BST (UK) »
Hi Kirkstall and welcome to Rootschat

If you go to www.familysearch.org and select the IGI..where it says fathers name type in George Sowerby..Mother Mary(first name only)then select British Isles..country England..county Cumberland then press search and bingo they should all be there

Hope this helps

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Re: SOWERBY, William 1841 1851 1861
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 20 April 08 16:30 BST (UK) »
Thanks Jane,
Posses more questions as to how and who is connected to whom. Is the following correct and if so why?
George S and Mary Hardy's children: William 1785, Bella or is that Isabella 1784, margaret 1791, Mary 1796, George 1800 and Sarah 1804 when her mother would have been 49! Also if George was born in 1753 and mary Hardy in 1755 they appear to have started the family late. Is Mary H the same Mary S aged 85 in the 1841 census return for Naworth living with son William 1785?

Similarly William S (1785) and Francis Graham's children:- William 1810, Thomas 1812, George 1814, Jane 1817, Mary 1822 or 1826 (above census), Isabella 1828 and Joseph 1829 (also named in above census record)

Sorry to be a pain but I would like to try and get it right and any evidence would be most helpful

Kiwi I think that I also noted the Stockhill name in NZ connected to a Sowerby my grandfathers' brother also married a Stockhill-any connections? but lightening rarely strikes twice.

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Re: SOWERBY, William 1841 1851 1861
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 20 April 08 18:21 BST (UK) »
Hi Kirkstall

Although I cant be 100% sure that Mary age 85 in 1841 is the former Mary Hardy mother of William..I am 99.9999% sure she is.

As for women having babies age 49 + it was a very common occurence...we have to remember that back in those days there was no contreception and so until a woman came to the natural end of her childbearing days there wasnt a lot she could do to stop becoming pregnant.

Perhaps you should PM kiwi with regards the Sowerbys.

Best of luck

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Re: SOWERBY, William 1841 1851 1861
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 20 April 08 18:38 BST (UK) »
Hi again Kirkstall

Just been having another look at your post...You say you are decended from James(son of William and Francis)but I cant find any trace of James..when was he born?

Im confused! Grin...unless he is going by the name Joseph b 1829

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« Reply #20 on: Sunday 20 April 08 19:05 BST (UK) »
Ah right.....Think Ive found James now on the 1861 cencus..but in the other censuses(41and51) he is called John..

If you need this cencus info...just ask

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Re: SOWERBY, William 1841 1851 1861
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 20 April 08 21:06 BST (UK) »

Hello Kiwi, at least I hope that I am communicating with you as I am new to this game.

Have communicated with sister Jane, very helpful and I copy you in.

I am a direct decendant of William 1810 and Ann Armstrong through their son James. There is also a connection with Sri Lanka as my Aunt served with the Red Cross in WW2 in what was then Ceylon.

I think that I also noted the Stockhill name in NZ connected to a Sowerby my grandfathers' brother also married a Stockhill-any connections? but lightening rarely strikes twice.
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Re: SOWERBY, William 1841 1851 1861
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 20 April 08 21:26 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Sisterjane on Sunday 20 April 08 19:05 BST (UK)
Ah right.....Think Ive found James now on the 1861 cencus..but in the other censuses(41and51) he is called John..

If you need this cencus info...just ask

Jane

Sister Jane

I hope I have found you. My original note might have been misleading as I did not quote william 1810's wife-sorry.

James is the son of William 1810 and Ann Armstrong b 2. Mar. 1830, he James married Margaret Bailes 16.12 1850 (I have a copy of M. Cert). This is the family shown on 1861 census. I have not found James and Margaret in 1851 or James in 1841. You will note he is not the Joseph of 1841.-TOO many Williams'.

I hope I have also posted a message for Kiwi.

Do you have an interest in the Sowerby family?

Again thank you for your help.

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Re: SOWERBY, William 1841 1851 1861
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 20 April 08 22:30 BST (UK) »
Okey-doky...

1851-Cencus-Heworth-Durham
High Felling

SOWERBY

James 21 head b Templegarth    Bricklayer
Margaret 24 wife b Killingworth-Northumberland

Living next door to

William Sowerby age 41 and Ann 43 his wife and family

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Re: SOWERBY, William 1841 1851 1861
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 20 April 08 22:48 BST (UK) »
Well done Jane-Thank you.

I have also found him in 1841, Hebburn & Jarrow with Wiiliam & Ann SAWERBY, William 1832 and Louis 1837. The latter is again a transcription error should be Frances J. G.( Jane Graham) who married in March 1870.

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« Reply #25 on: Sunday 20 April 08 22:59 BST (UK) »
LOL......I was just about to post the Sawerby details..glad you found them....

I was looking at the later cencus for William b 1810..it would seem he married again at some point and started another family.....unless of course im on the wrong William ..LOL!!

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Re: SOWERBY, William 1841 1851 1861
« Reply #26 on: Monday 21 April 08 05:57 BST (UK) »
Hi There
I have a Sarah Sowerby born Cumberland in 1852 who married a Robert Casson. Could this be a link with yours Sowerby's. I hope so as I seem to have hit a brick wall. Regards Betty
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Re: SOWERBY, William 1841 1851 1861
« Reply #27 on: Monday 21 April 08 12:09 BST (UK) »
Hi Betty

Where have you hit your brick wall?

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