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1871/1891 census lookup for HARDY COMPLETED
« on: Thursday 17 April 08 12:08 BST (UK) »

Hello,

I am looking for my g.g.grandfather William John HARDY b. 1851c whose wife was Sarah Jane HARDY.  They had the following children that I know of:  Hubert E HARDY, Austin HARDY, and Etheldred HARDY.
Could possibly have had sons Phillip Andrew and Basil Joseph HARDY

William was an artist and was born in Clerkenwell.  I have only located him on the 1881 census Civil Parish: St George Bloomsbury County:London, Country England.

If any one could do a lookup for the 1891 or 1871 census I would very much appreciate it.

Thank you

Reenie


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Re: 1871/1891 CENSUS LOOKUP FOR HARDY
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 17 April 08 12:16 BST (UK) »

Hi Reenie,

1891
RG12/224 60 27
Clerkenwell, London
72 Kings Cross Road
3 rooms occupied

William J Hardy, head, 40, Artist & Engraver (Pictorial), b. Clerkenwell
Sarah J, wife, 35, b. Whitechapel
Austin, son, 12, scholar, b. Kentish Town
Etheldreada, dau, 11, scholar, b. Highgate
Hubert E, son, 10, scholar, b. Bloomsbury
Vincent R, son, 9, scholar, b. do.
Mary G, dau, 8, scholar, b. St Pancras
Philip A, son, 7, scholar, b. Mddx Tottenham
Les V, son, 3, scholar, b. London Clerkenwell

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Re: 1871/1891 CENSUS LOOKUP FOR HARDY
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 17 April 08 12:16 BST (UK) »

Given the kids ages on the 1881, they were probably not married till the late 1870s  ...

do you want them in 1871 as single people - perhaps with their own parents ?
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PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle
KEW – 1814, Carlisle
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Re: 1871/1891 census lookup for HARDY
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 17 April 08 12:21 BST (UK) »

(Hi again, Newf  Smiley)

1851 (I know you didn't ask - just happened to come across the entry  Tongue)
HO107/1517 190 26
Clerkenwell, Middlesex
33 Upper Rosomon Street

William Hardy, head, 37, Wood Engraver, b. Gateshead ****
Mary, wife, 36, b. Ireland
William John, son, 1/4, b. Clerkenwell
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Re: 1871/1891 census lookup for HARDY
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 17 April 08 12:25 BST (UK) »

1871
RG10/236 24 41
St Pancras, London
222 Gt College St

Wm Hardy, head, 57? (looks like 37!), Engraver on Wood, b. Durham Gateshead
Jane, wife, 55, b. Mddx St Pancras
Mary E, dau, 25, b. do.
Wm J, son, 20, Engraver on Wood, b. Clerkenwell 
Eliza Quin, sister in law, unm, 52, Income from Interest of Money, b. St Pancras - deaf from birth
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Re: 1871/1891 census lookup for HARDY
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 17 April 08 12:26 BST (UK) »

Murphy's Law ...


Marriages Mar 1877  
 
HARDY  William John    Stepney  Vol 1c Page 642    
to either      Penny  Sarah Ann      
or                Tylor  Sarah Ann    

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PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle
KEW – 1814, Carlisle
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Re: 1871/1891 census lookup for HARDY
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 17 April 08 12:33 BST (UK) »

Murphy's Law ...
Grrrrr!

William sr's remarriage:
Dec 1853 Clerkenwell 1b 785
Jane Quin - William Hardy

There's a possible death for Mary Hardy, Sep 1851 Clerkenwell
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Re: 1871/1891 census lookup for HARDY
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 17 April 08 12:46 BST (UK) »

 Cool

Marriages Jun 1877 Wandsworth  1d 896   
William John Hardy to possibly Sarah Jane Rudge
 
Guess what the boy Vincent R was called?
Birth Vincent Rudge Hardy
Dec 1881 St Giles 1b 616
 
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Re: 1871/1891 census lookup for HARDY
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 17 April 08 12:57 BST (UK) »

So! Miss Rudge ...

Best guess:

1861
RG9/1772 5 4
Pitchcombe, Gloucestershire
Village

Ann Kentfield, head, wid, 76, occupation 'Not any', b. St James London
Elizabeth Cooper, sister, unm, 75, Not any, b. London
Cornelia Martha Rudge, niece, mar, 31, Not any, b. Middlesex Bow
Sarah Jane Rudge, great niece, 5, scholar, b. Whitechapel
Mary C Rudge, great niece, 4, scholar, b. Middlesex Bow

what a great name to research! If you want to know dad's name, just search FreeBMD for a marriage name Rudge to a woman first name Cornelia Martha - there's only one  Cheesy   
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Re: 1871/1891 census lookup for HARDY
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 17 April 08 13:45 BST (UK) »

ah, so they married south of the river - flukey that every WJ Hardy married a Sarah !


Nice one Tati   Tongue
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PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle
KEW – 1814, Carlisle
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Re: 1871/1891 census lookup for HARDY
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 17 April 08 14:00 BST (UK) »

HI,

Thanks so much to The Newfster and Tati.
I'm over the moon.

Thanks for looking Wiliam John Hardy up on the census for me.  He did marry Sarah Jane Rudge, sorry I forgot to mention it.
I did not know about the children Mary or Les.
Basil was born in 1891, so it must have been after the census was taken.  They must have come to OZ sometime after he was born, as they had two more children in OZ in 1895.

Would it be possible for you to look up William John Hardy b 1851c in the 1861 census?  I looked on an index for it, and I think he is in a household schedule no 82.

Thanks again.

Reenie.
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Re: 1871/1891 census lookup for HARDY
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 17 April 08 14:03 BST (UK) »

not sure that you can be forgiven for not mentioning the marriage    Tongue

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PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle
KEW – 1814, Carlisle
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« Reply #12 on: Thursday 17 April 08 14:04 BST (UK) »

Newf!!  Grin

I saw him in 1861 but it was basically the same household as 1871 ... Are you doing it, N?

Added: I think the boy might have been Leo instead of Les:
Leo Victor Hardy
Sep 1887  Holborn 1b 762
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Re: 1871/1891 census lookup for HARDY
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 17 April 08 14:07 BST (UK) »

1861 - RG9/193; Folio: 111; Page: 29 - Clerkenwell (Amwell)
5, Oldham Place


William Hardy 47  Head Wood Engraver Durham, Gateshead
Jane Hardy 45  Wife Middx, Somers Town
May Elizh Hardy 15  dau Clerkenwell
William Jno Hardy 10  son do



Schedule # 221   Tongue
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PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle
KEW – 1814, Carlisle
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Re: 1871/1891 census lookup for HARDY COMPLETED
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 17 April 08 14:53 BST (UK) »

Thanks again Newfster and Tati, for the lookups.

I will check out FREEBMD for the Rudge marriage.

Reenie
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