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Kelly relatives moving from UK to South Africa
« on: Friday 18 April 08 08:13 BST (UK) »

I am trying to find out more about the relatives on my husband's side of the tree. His G. Grandfather was James Kelly born 15 July 1870 Chester, Cheshire and his wife was Annie Thornley born 18 July 1879 Hyde Cheshire. I have picked James up on various census in Liverpool and Chester. He is on the 1891 census living in Hawarden Flintshire with his family. I know that his eldest child Charles was born in 1898. I cannot find a marriage for them over here so can only assume that he was married out in South Africa. He went there to the Gold Mines, I have a group photo of him. I wondered if there is any way I can trace a marriage in South Africa or for that matter James and Annies deaths which I have been told are 1926 and 1933 respectively. Any help or guidance on this would be very much appreciated. Julie
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Re: Kelly relatives moving from UK to South Africa
« Reply #1 on: Friday 18 April 08 08:30 BST (UK) »

Hi Julie

In the National Archives in Pretoria there is this reference to his Estate File:

DEPOT     TAB
SOURCE    MHG
REFERENCE 60768                                                                 
DESCRIPTION          KELLY, JAMES CHARLES.
STARTING  19260000
ENDING    19260000
REMARKS   SURVIVING SPOUSE ANNIE KELLY.

You can order pics of the file - see one of the sticky topics at the top of this board.  Also at the top are topics relating to what you may expect to see in the file as well as a link to the National Archives so you can do your own searches.  If this isn't your guy, then there are a few other estate files listed for a James Kelly around the same time.  I didn't see a file for Annie around 1933.

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Moira
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Re: Kelly relatives moving from UK to South Africa
« Reply #2 on: Friday 18 April 08 12:19 BST (UK) »

Thank you so much for that Moira, it is very much appreciated. I will follow it up and see what I can find out. Thanks once again for your time. Julie
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Re: Kelly relatives moving from UK to South Africa
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 19 April 08 13:03 BST (UK) »

Moira, sorry to bother you again. Have tried looking into this but pardon my ignorance I don't see what you mean by sticky topics. Julie
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Re: Kelly relatives moving from UK to South Africa
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 29 April 08 15:52 BST (UK) »

Moira, I sent a message to the South African archives quoting the information you gave me and said could they explain how I could obtain a copy of the file and they said they couldn't do this. I could only get it by going in or paying someone to investigate it for me. Sadly I don't think I can get further on this as I cannot afford to do that and obviously living in Sussex in England cannot go in myself. Thanks for your help. Julie
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Re: Kelly relatives moving from UK to South Africa
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 04 May 08 16:44 BST (UK) »

Hi Julie

Sorry for the late reply - I have been away on holiday.

The sticky topics are the ones at the top of this board that never move from their position.  Look at the 5th one down - on page 1 is my original posting explaining how to order pics as well as a link to the actual web site.  You will definately get copies through them.  I have just this last month ordered and received copies through them from the Pietermatitzburg & Pretoria Archive.

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Moira


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