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Topic: Kendal Parish Records to buy (Read 810 times)
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sillgen
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I expect the Cumbria FHS would be able to tell you. www.cumbriafhs.com/
Or the record office in Kendal?
Andrea
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jillruss
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Thanks Andrea,
I've already checked out the FHS website and what few publications they do have seem to be mostly MIs and censuses.
I double checked the Archives site but, as I thought, they don't seem to have anything - very few Archives/Record Offices are in the publications-selling market.
That's why I wondered if anyone had come across another company like S&N which might just have some Kendal PRs for sale.
I've hit a bloomin great big brickwall with my Troughtons of Kendal. I've even had paid research done by Kendal Archives - they're very nice people but it's very expensive and takes forever! Plus, there's a limit to what you can ask them to look up in - say - one hour. It would be nice to be able to trot along to Kendal in person but I don't live anywhere near (wish I did, it's beautiful!).
Oh well, I'll keep searching - and hopefully S & N will extend their CD coverage of Kendal PRs. 
Jill
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See Surname Interests Table +
Major brickwalls:
John Frith mge to Fanny, Bucks? c 1798
Bathsheba Boothroyd bp W Yks c1802
John Bishop bp E Yks c1758
Joseph Symonds mg to Sarah, prob Berks c 1735-40
John Horwood mg to Martha, Berks c 1735-40
Sarah Sculler bp Berks area c 1675
Paul Phillips bp Berks/Bucks c 1720
William Newell bp Berks/Bucks/Oxon c 1765
Richard Troughton mg to Jane, Westmoreland c 1732
Mary Simon bp Shrops c.1795
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sillgen
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Surely the record office will be aware of any published transcripts? I would hope so or they are not doing their job properly!
The look up exchange website may have someone who is prepared to help you. That is rarely mentioned on rootschat but it is a sort of precursor to us and is region specific - even document specific. I offer a school record in Sussex for instance. I have not had a query for a long time but I assume it is still going.
I go up to Cumbria once or twice a year as we have relatives in the area but have just been so it would be a long wait!
Are you not near an LDS centre? That is the obvious way forward as you can order any parish register film and search it there at your leisure.
Andrea
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DickieDoodle
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Hi,
It sounds like your CD is a transcript from a transcript of the PRs, available for reference only in book form at Kendal Local Studies Library.
Book III transcribed by R.N.Birley in 1952, in conjunction with CWAAS, includes baps. for 1596-9, marrs. & burs. 1591-9 and baps. 1607-31. Book IV, also transcribed by R.N.Birley in 1960 on behalf of CWAAS, covers marrs. 1606-31 and burs. from 1606-31. Both books are fully indexed.
Regards
DD
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ChrisWest
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Hi Everyone,
Just to let you all know that there is a gap in the PRs for Holy Trinity from 1631 to 1679 and the Bishops Transcripts only cover 1673 to 1676 for the same period.
The good news is that I have not yet found any baptisms or marriages that ARE NOT on the family search (IGI) website, give or take the odd mispelling, although this cannot be said for the other chapels within the parish.
The bad news is that I cannot find any other transcripts for Holy Trinity, there are very few for the chapels also, and find this as frustrating as everyone else does.
Keep plugging away!
Best Wishes
Chris
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Guy Etchells
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As far as I am aware the only register transcripts, for Kendal, available in printed form cover
Part I: 1558-1587
part II: marriages and burials and burials 1558-1587, baptisms 1591-1595
part III: baptisms, 1596-9, marriages and burials, 1591-9, baptisms 1607-31;
part IV: marriages and burials 1606-1631;
Cheers
Guy
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jillruss
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Yes, Guy - those are the only ones that I'm aware of.
If Chris is right and there is in fact a gap in the PRs between 1631 & 1679, then it looks as though I'm not going to be able to go any further. The furthest back I have with my Troughtons is William of Fellside who married in 1705. It seems likely that he was baptised prior to 1679 and, anyway, it would be well nigh impossible to tie him in with earlier Troughtons when there's a near 50 year gap. Oh well!
Chris, when you say 'other chapels within the parish', am I correct in assuming you mean other denominations?
Jill
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See Surname Interests Table +
Major brickwalls:
John Frith mge to Fanny, Bucks? c 1798
Bathsheba Boothroyd bp W Yks c1802
John Bishop bp E Yks c1758
Joseph Symonds mg to Sarah, prob Berks c 1735-40
John Horwood mg to Martha, Berks c 1735-40
Sarah Sculler bp Berks area c 1675
Paul Phillips bp Berks/Bucks c 1720
William Newell bp Berks/Bucks/Oxon c 1765
Richard Troughton mg to Jane, Westmoreland c 1732
Mary Simon bp Shrops c.1795
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ChrisWest
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At the end of the 18th C, Kendal Parish included the outlying villages, which all had their own chapel. Some were improved or rebuilt and became churches in their own right by the implementation of the Parochial registers Act or Rose's Act of 1812, but these are the C.E. chapels I was refering to. I also forgot about the All Hallows chapel on Fellside which William may have gone to.
I should perhaps just clarify that whilst there are not many missing entries on the IGI for Holy Trinity (Parish Church), there are quite a lot missing from these chapels. It is also confusing due to the fact that these chapels transcribed entries annually into the Parish Records at Holy Trinity, and so a lot of IGI entries are stated as Kendal before 1813 (meaning Kendal Parish), where in actual fact the event took place in one of the villages.
I know none of this will help you get any further back Jill, but it may help if you decide to look sideways at other family members.
Chris
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Deborah Boss
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Jill
Have you looked at a2a? There seem to be some references (Quarter sessions and the like) to Troughton weavers in Kendal and some yeomen too. I suspect some of these are yours or related at least.
There is a copy of a 1689 will made by Miles Troughton of Kendal (wife Agnes?)who seems to be leaving his property to his Dowker granddaughters. You could enquire to see if there are any other Troughton wills. A couple of timely wills could get you over any gaps in the parish records and be more interesting as well.
There are also some references to Kendal Troughtons serving in the Lancashire militia in 1803/4.
Sorry if you already know all this stuff.
regards
Deborah
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Deborah Boss
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Jill
It may be different in Kendal, but I have lots of wills for Crosby Ravensworth from the 17th century. Most of the people weren't well off. The dividing line seems to be more as to whether they were self-employed or not. They would at least have the tools of their trade to leave. But even labourers might have debts that they wanted to acknowledge (or call in); or a child they wanted to favour; or they just wanted to talk their way into an afterlife.
regards
Deborah
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sillgen
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The PRO documentsonline site is always worth a look for wills up to 1858 - though it does not cover all probate areas.
Andrea
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Deborah Boss
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Jill
Do you mean how have I determined the existence of my Crosby Ravensworth wills? I had intermittent access to a book that listed all Diocese of Carlisle wills between 1650 and 1750 and wrote down the names of the testators, probate date and location of anyone from CR. Initially, I used that to request wills from Carlisle Record Office. But then I just started to ask about the existence of wills for a particular person based on their burial date.
I'm assuming that Kendal wills are held at Carlisle but I haven't checked that Kendal is in the Carlisle diocese.
Providing you restrict your request to a particular timeframe, place and surname I think you could probably ask about the existence of wills without incurring any charge. Why don't you email them and ask? I think they have a will database/spreadsheet (but not online) so that is not too onerous for them. Getting the photocopies would then cost money but it's a lot cheaper than travelling there. My last will request cost me £35 for copies of 22 wills. That seems like a bargain to me.
As to a2a I just typed Troughton names, or Troughton NEAR40 Kendal into the seach box. (You can also select NorthWest to reduce hits).
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Deborah
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