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jillruss
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Re: Kendal Parish Records to buy
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 05 June 08 17:04 UTC (UK) »

Andrea - thanks but if you mean the National Archives site, they don't have much for the North. I've tried searching for Troughton in Kendal - nothing!

Deborah, thanks for the suggestion. I'll try emailing them to enquire about the few Westmoreland ancestors I have who I actually have a burial date for, but I'll be gobsmacked if they don't charge for the answers!  Undecided

Still, always worth a try.

Jill
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Major brickwalls:
John Frith mge to Fanny, Bucks? c 1798
Bathsheba Boothroyd bp W Yks c1802
John Bishop bp E Yks c1758
Joseph Symonds mg to Sarah, prob Berks c 1735-40
John Horwood mg to Martha, Berks c 1735-40
Sarah Sculler bp  Berks area c 1675
Paul Phillips bp  Berks/Bucks c 1720
William Newell bp Berks/Bucks/Oxon c 1765
Richard Troughton mg to Jane, Westmoreland c 1732
Mary Simon bp Shrops c.1795
Deborah Boss
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Re: Kendal Parish Records to buy
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 05 June 08 17:12 UTC (UK) »

Jill
I've ordered a ton of stuff from Carlisle so it may be that they're happy to look up some stuff for me knowing that the charge for the lookup can be bundled in with the next copying request.

But I think there's a difference between looking up their holdings and looking up something within their holdings!
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Gigi
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Re: Kendal Parish Records to buy
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 05 June 08 18:03 UTC (UK) »

Carlisle RO have indexed their wills by name, village and year of death or when will proved. If you telephone the RO they will happily do a search of their index over the phone for you. Ask for Lynda!

Gillian
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jillruss
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Re: Kendal Parish Records to buy
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 05 June 08 19:28 UTC (UK) »

Gillian - that's great. Thanks for the tip! I've already emailed them, so I'll wait to see if I get an answer and ring them if I don't.

brill!  Grin

Jill
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Major brickwalls:
John Frith mge to Fanny, Bucks? c 1798
Bathsheba Boothroyd bp W Yks c1802
John Bishop bp E Yks c1758
Joseph Symonds mg to Sarah, prob Berks c 1735-40
John Horwood mg to Martha, Berks c 1735-40
Sarah Sculler bp  Berks area c 1675
Paul Phillips bp  Berks/Bucks c 1720
William Newell bp Berks/Bucks/Oxon c 1765
Richard Troughton mg to Jane, Westmoreland c 1732
Mary Simon bp Shrops c.1795
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Re: Kendal Parish Records to buy
« Reply #19 on: Friday 06 June 08 15:56 UTC (UK) »

Hello Jill,
I too am a descendant of the Troughton’s of Kendal.

I think we have been in touch before.

From my notes taken from the parish records in Kendal;
William Troughton baptised on the 9th March 1683 {Fellside Kendal]
Son of Thomas and Agnes Troughton.
Thomas Troughton and Agnes Wilson married 1679 September 23rd in Kendal
Could this be the William Troughton married in 1705?

I have a copy of a will of my 4 x great-grandfather; John Troughton 1734 -1805.
He was a weaver, there is a great deal of info in the will, he was quite well off, he even left money to be distributed among the poor of the area; until I found John’s will I thought the Troughton’s were the poor of the area, things were very different to what I believed they were!

Cheers
Carol




Thanks, Deborah.

No, I didn't already know any of it - so thanks very much.  Grin

I'll take a look on A2A - at least one of my Troughtons was a weaver - I don't know the others' occupations yet. I doubt that they were sufficiently well off to leave wills but it's certainly worth a look. I've already found a shepherd ancestor in Oxfordshire who left a will - not that he had much but I think he was trying to sort out his children who didn't seem to get on with each other!

Jill
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jillruss
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Re: Kendal Parish Records to buy
« Reply #20 on: Friday 06 June 08 17:50 UTC (UK) »

Wow, Loganberry, that's stopped me in my tracks!!  Shocked

Yes, I think that 1686 baptism must be the William Troughton who married Agnes Harrison in 1705. Their first son was named Thomas - presumably after William's father - and he's described as from Fellside in the marriage entry.

I'm intrigued by your 4xgreat grandfather John (1734 - 1805).

I only have 2 children of William & Agnes - Thomas (1706) and Richard (1707). My line is through Richard's son John (1750), so is your John the son of Thomas?!!  Undecided

I also assumed that my Troughtons were not too well off so hadn't really pursued the possibility of any wills. If you don't mind, I'd love to know how your John is related to mine and if any of my Troughtons were mentioned in your John's will.

Jill
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See Surname Interests Table +
Major brickwalls:
John Frith mge to Fanny, Bucks? c 1798
Bathsheba Boothroyd bp W Yks c1802
John Bishop bp E Yks c1758
Joseph Symonds mg to Sarah, prob Berks c 1735-40
John Horwood mg to Martha, Berks c 1735-40
Sarah Sculler bp  Berks area c 1675
Paul Phillips bp  Berks/Bucks c 1720
William Newell bp Berks/Bucks/Oxon c 1765
Richard Troughton mg to Jane, Westmoreland c 1732
Mary Simon bp Shrops c.1795
jillruss
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Re: Kendal Parish Records to buy
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 08 June 08 15:32 UTC (UK) »

Just a quick update.

I had a very speedy reply from Cumbria Archives. They'd looked up my names and made no charge - so that's proved me wrong!  Embarrassed

Unfortunately, none of them seem to have left a will, which is no great surprise, but a little disappointing.

With the gap in the PRs 1631-79, has anyone any ideas as to how I might get any further back?

Jill
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See Surname Interests Table +
Major brickwalls:
John Frith mge to Fanny, Bucks? c 1798
Bathsheba Boothroyd bp W Yks c1802
John Bishop bp E Yks c1758
Joseph Symonds mg to Sarah, prob Berks c 1735-40
John Horwood mg to Martha, Berks c 1735-40
Sarah Sculler bp  Berks area c 1675
Paul Phillips bp  Berks/Bucks c 1720
William Newell bp Berks/Bucks/Oxon c 1765
Richard Troughton mg to Jane, Westmoreland c 1732
Mary Simon bp Shrops c.1795
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Re: Kendal Parish Records to buy
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 20 July 08 13:18 UTC (UK) »

Chris,

Your note that the Holy Trinity records include those of outlying chapels might help explain the trouble I have had tracking down the actual church/chapel for a marriage I found on the IGI; John Willan and Anne Shalmerdine on 24 Sept 1758 in 'Kendal'. It's not clear to me if this is a marriage at Holy Trinity or elsewhere. If anyone can help me to locate it, or has further information on either John Willan or Anne Shalmerdine, I'd be very grateful. Thanks

Tish

 
At the end of the 18th C, Kendal Parish included the outlying villages, which all had their own chapel. Some were improved or rebuilt and became churches in their own right by the implementation of the Parochial registers Act or Rose's Act of 1812, but these are the C.E. chapels I was refering to. I also forgot about the All Hallows chapel on Fellside which William may have gone to.

I should perhaps just clarify that whilst there are not many missing entries on the IGI for Holy Trinity (Parish Church), there are quite a lot missing from these chapels. It is also confusing due to the fact that these chapels transcribed entries annually into the Parish Records at Holy Trinity, and so a lot of IGI entries are stated as Kendal before 1813 (meaning Kendal Parish), where in actual fact the event took place in one of the villages.

I know none of this will help you get any further back Jill, but it may help if you decide to look sideways at other family members.

Chris
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TishIrwin
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Re: Kendal Parish Records to buy
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 23 July 08 12:16 UTC (UK) »

Chris,

Thanks for your personal message to which I didn't seem to be able to reply. Thanks for offering to look the marriage up and I will do as you suggest and start a new topic (I'm very new to this!).

Tish
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DickieDoodle
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Re: Kendal Parish Records to buy
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 28 December 08 21:49 UTC (UK) »

Jill,

Are you still interested in Kendal Parish burials?

You may wish to check out www.southwest-familyhistory.com

View the link to South Westmorland Family History on the Resources page.

DD
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jillruss
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Re: Kendal Parish Records to buy
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 28 December 08 22:20 UTC (UK) »

DD,

Thanks for your post. Yes, I'm still interested, but unfortunately, the link you give is just to a research service.

Jill
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See Surname Interests Table +
Major brickwalls:
John Frith mge to Fanny, Bucks? c 1798
Bathsheba Boothroyd bp W Yks c1802
John Bishop bp E Yks c1758
Joseph Symonds mg to Sarah, prob Berks c 1735-40
John Horwood mg to Martha, Berks c 1735-40
Sarah Sculler bp  Berks area c 1675
Paul Phillips bp  Berks/Bucks c 1720
William Newell bp Berks/Bucks/Oxon c 1765
Richard Troughton mg to Jane, Westmoreland c 1732
Mary Simon bp Shrops c.1795
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Re: Kendal Parish Records to buy
« Reply #26 on: Monday 29 December 08 22:43 UTC (UK) »

Yes, but they also seem to be selling Marriages & Burials, and as your topic title is Kendal Parish Records to buy . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . I just thought . . . . . .
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jillruss
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Re: Kendal Parish Records to buy
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 30 December 08 10:42 UTC (UK) »

Thanks, DickieDoodle.

Sorry - didn't mean to sound ungrateful.
 Embarrassed

Jill
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See Surname Interests Table +
Major brickwalls:
John Frith mge to Fanny, Bucks? c 1798
Bathsheba Boothroyd bp W Yks c1802
John Bishop bp E Yks c1758
Joseph Symonds mg to Sarah, prob Berks c 1735-40
John Horwood mg to Martha, Berks c 1735-40
Sarah Sculler bp  Berks area c 1675
Paul Phillips bp  Berks/Bucks c 1720
William Newell bp Berks/Bucks/Oxon c 1765
Richard Troughton mg to Jane, Westmoreland c 1732
Mary Simon bp Shrops c.1795
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Re: Kendal Parish Records to buy
« Reply #28 on: Monday 09 March 09 23:44 UTC (UK) »

Hi jillruss,

Can I suggest you try looking for Troughton wills at Lancashire CRO? The court for probate for southern Cumberland and the southern half of Westmorland was the Diocese of Chester so the wills have landed up further south than most people think they could.

 Would you believe there is a website with an on-line index which includes wills!!  http://www.lancashire.gov.uk/education/record_office/   I've just done a quick search and found a long list of marriage bonds and wills all for the name Troughton.  You need to look for LANCAT in the column on the left hand side of the screen. 

I don't have any Troughtons in my family so far as I know but I have people named Fisher who lived on Fellside and most of them seem to be weavers or nailers.

Good luck with the search,

Missprim
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jillruss
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Re: Kendal Parish Records to buy
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 10 March 09 13:26 UTC (UK) »

Hi Missprim,

Thanks for your reply - and the link. I'm sorry to be so dense, but I'm having difficulties with the online index  Embarrassed.

I put in Troughton under 'Keyword' and all I get is a reference to Dr Who and a couple of other irrelevant items! How did you manage to get all those wills/marriage bonds etc?

Could you possibly talk me through it?

Jill (feeling very stupid!)
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See Surname Interests Table +
Major brickwalls:
John Frith mge to Fanny, Bucks? c 1798
Bathsheba Boothroyd bp W Yks c1802
John Bishop bp E Yks c1758
Joseph Symonds mg to Sarah, prob Berks c 1735-40
John Horwood mg to Martha, Berks c 1735-40
Sarah Sculler bp  Berks area c 1675
Paul Phillips bp  Berks/Bucks c 1720
William Newell bp Berks/Bucks/Oxon c 1765
Richard Troughton mg to Jane, Westmoreland c 1732
Mary Simon bp Shrops c.1795
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