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Adrian Smith
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Hi All,
Once again, I'm having trouble reading a birth certificate. I believe the Residence of Informant says '13, Villa Field, Bathwick', but I have been unable to find it on any map. Does anyone know where this might have been [1868]?
Regards,
Adrian.
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Hemmens - Westbury, Wiltshire, Winscombe,Axbridge Somerset.
Smith - Bratton, Westbury,Wiltshire
Sheppard - Wiltshire.
Loader - London, Hertforshire.
Legate - Hertfordshire
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kiwipom
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Adrian
They're definately there. In the 1912 Post Office Directory they are sub located at 'New Cleveland Bridge'
There is a further division Numbers 1-5 Rochfort Cottages and 11-64 Villa Fields.
There are not a complete 64 houses, in fact only 24 addresses with number 24 also having a 24a.
Residents include 'Church caretaker' and 'Sexton' so maybe close to Church.
At present I am in Korea and unable to use my maps but search close to the Cleveland Bridge. I would've thought that closer to Walcot than Bathwick
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Evans, (Marylebone).
Algate, (Wembury, Plymouth Devon)
Chammings, (Jacobstowe, Hatherleigh, Iddesleigh)
Chummings. (Jacobstowe, Devon)
Taylor, (Minterne, Dorset)
Taylor, Ozanne, le Huray. (Guernsey).
Dunn, ( North Grimston, Rillington).
Pickering, Forth, (Crowland, Spalding).
Forth, (Welney, Norfolk)
Roberts. (Ampthill).
Hippisley,Fry, Dagger. (Bath,Somerset).
Dyer, White. (Pontardawe. Bath.)
Rivis, (East Yorks.)
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kiwipom
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Adrian
Just had a look at the 1872 Directory and Villa Fields does not appear but Rochfort Place does located Bathwick Street Cleveland Bridge. It MAY be that the Post office recognised Villa Fields by a differrent name or it was not sufficiently affluent enough to be important. Maybe only Ratepayers listed.
I know it was there, I have relatives there also and I have difficulty finding them in some P.O. Directories
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Evans, (Marylebone).
Algate, (Wembury, Plymouth Devon)
Chammings, (Jacobstowe, Hatherleigh, Iddesleigh)
Chummings. (Jacobstowe, Devon)
Taylor, (Minterne, Dorset)
Taylor, Ozanne, le Huray. (Guernsey).
Dunn, ( North Grimston, Rillington).
Pickering, Forth, (Crowland, Spalding).
Forth, (Welney, Norfolk)
Roberts. (Ampthill).
Hippisley,Fry, Dagger. (Bath,Somerset).
Dyer, White. (Pontardawe. Bath.)
Rivis, (East Yorks.)
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kiwipom
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Give me a name Adrian, I'll search the P.O. Directory and see what comes up
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Evans, (Marylebone).
Algate, (Wembury, Plymouth Devon)
Chammings, (Jacobstowe, Hatherleigh, Iddesleigh)
Chummings. (Jacobstowe, Devon)
Taylor, (Minterne, Dorset)
Taylor, Ozanne, le Huray. (Guernsey).
Dunn, ( North Grimston, Rillington).
Pickering, Forth, (Crowland, Spalding).
Forth, (Welney, Norfolk)
Roberts. (Ampthill).
Hippisley,Fry, Dagger. (Bath,Somerset).
Dyer, White. (Pontardawe. Bath.)
Rivis, (East Yorks.)
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kiwipom
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Adrian there are no Hemmens in the 1872 Directory.
There is a Hemery a Lewis Hemming who is a Carpenter at 2 Williams Place Northampton Buildings
and there are several Hemmings a William who is a Carpenter Wheelwright at Wick, in the 1895 Directory he becomes Heming with one M.
In the 1912 there are Hemsburys to Hemmsleys with a variety of Hemmings but none at Villa Fields.
Sorry I have the same problem finding mine
BTW you can download these directories from the Bath BMD website
www. bathbmd.org.uk
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Evans, (Marylebone).
Algate, (Wembury, Plymouth Devon)
Chammings, (Jacobstowe, Hatherleigh, Iddesleigh)
Chummings. (Jacobstowe, Devon)
Taylor, (Minterne, Dorset)
Taylor, Ozanne, le Huray. (Guernsey).
Dunn, ( North Grimston, Rillington).
Pickering, Forth, (Crowland, Spalding).
Forth, (Welney, Norfolk)
Roberts. (Ampthill).
Hippisley,Fry, Dagger. (Bath,Somerset).
Dyer, White. (Pontardawe. Bath.)
Rivis, (East Yorks.)
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Phil Goater
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Adrian - your map is WRONG concerning the 19th century location of 'Villa Fields'. The indication for the University of Bath shows the map is of somewhat recent origin. Some clever clogs have put a spanner in the works by taking an old area name and putting it on the wrong side of the river! That side was never Bathwick!
Have a look at this:
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/mapsheet.aspx?compid=55136&sheetid=8091&ox=0&oy=0&zm=1&czm=10&x=291&y=188
I was brought up in Rockcliffe Road, Bathwick and am fascinated to see that it appears to have been built in the area covered by Villa fields (along with Forester avenue/road and the fire station). I used to walk this way to primary school. I must confess that until now I never knew it had been called Villa fields. The church mentioned is the Anglican church of St.John the baptist which was built in 1861 and is very much of the 'High' church tradition and is situated across the other side of Bathwick Street.
Thanks for the provocation to check this out!
Regards,
Phil
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kiwipom
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Thanks for that info Phil very Interesting.
I certainly know where the Fire Station is located, so it gives me a good idea where Villa Fields were.
Looking at the Map, there seem to be a number of Nurseries, which adds because our Dagger Family were Gardeners.
Thanks again
Tony
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Evans, (Marylebone).
Algate, (Wembury, Plymouth Devon)
Chammings, (Jacobstowe, Hatherleigh, Iddesleigh)
Chummings. (Jacobstowe, Devon)
Taylor, (Minterne, Dorset)
Taylor, Ozanne, le Huray. (Guernsey).
Dunn, ( North Grimston, Rillington).
Pickering, Forth, (Crowland, Spalding).
Forth, (Welney, Norfolk)
Roberts. (Ampthill).
Hippisley,Fry, Dagger. (Bath,Somerset).
Dyer, White. (Pontardawe. Bath.)
Rivis, (East Yorks.)
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Phil Goater
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Hi Tony,
I note that you have Fry relatives from Bath - my 2x great aunt's mother-in-law was Grace Fry who married Abraham Bartlett a tailor based in Walcot Street, Bath. She must have been born circa 1818. Any sign of her amongst your lot?
With apologies for going slightly off topic,
Regards,
Phil
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kiwipom
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Hi Tony,
I note that you have Fry relatives from Bath - my 2x great aunt's mother-in-law was Grace Fry who married Abraham Bartlett a tailor based in Walcot Street, Bath. She must have been born circa 1818. Any sign of her amongst your lot?
With apologies for going slightly off topic,
Regards,
Phil
Sorry Phil, I've not come across a Grace. Our closest by timeline was Fanny Fry who married Charles Dagger, she was a daughter of Edward Fry and Sarah Watts.
Regards
Tony
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Evans, (Marylebone).
Algate, (Wembury, Plymouth Devon)
Chammings, (Jacobstowe, Hatherleigh, Iddesleigh)
Chummings. (Jacobstowe, Devon)
Taylor, (Minterne, Dorset)
Taylor, Ozanne, le Huray. (Guernsey).
Dunn, ( North Grimston, Rillington).
Pickering, Forth, (Crowland, Spalding).
Forth, (Welney, Norfolk)
Roberts. (Ampthill).
Hippisley,Fry, Dagger. (Bath,Somerset).
Dyer, White. (Pontardawe. Bath.)
Rivis, (East Yorks.)
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