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plimmerian
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Seek marriage of Isaac LEADER b. c1804 of Broad Town to Phoebe (UNKNOWN) b. c1806 of Wroughton.
First child (Elizabeth/Ann) born c1834.
Anyone able to locate?
Many thanks,
Ian.
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davierj
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I could not find the marriage in Broad Town or Wroughton.
A possible baptism in Wroughton 29 Jan 1804 Pheebee Daniels dau of William and Ann.
Another Wroughton baptism 29 Dec 1833 Elizabeth Leader dau of Isaac and Prudence, lab.
Cheers Dave
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Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukResearch: Clements, Jenkins, Jones, Williams, Davies, Renfrey in Cardiganshire. Trow, Jones, Clayton in Montgomeryshire. Renfrey, Datsun, May, Stephens in Cornwall Foster, Rogers in Liverpool Milliner, Fry, in Gloucestershire Mawby, Popple in Rutland Kent, Fry, Robinson, Nott, Griffiths in Somerset Willis in Oxfordshire Fishlock, Snell, Fry, Brown in Wiltshire |
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plimmerian
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hi
thanks for looking, a bit miffed by this one!
best wishes,
Ian.
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krisesjoint
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Hi Ian and dave,
Second marriage 
Good Pick for Phoebe Dave 
Elizabeth was not Phoebe's daughter as shown in baptism Dave located.
Isaac LEADER = Prudence TUCK 02 MAR 1829 Broad Hinton
Burial Wroughton
Prudence LEADER 31 Aug 1834 aged 27 Years
Isaac LEADER = Phoeby DANIELS Dec 1/4 1839 Swindon 8 557
Cheers Kris
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davierj
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Nice one Kris, I only checked Wroughton and Broad Town and picked out names that looked familiar in the appropriate timescale.
As you know if they were not there they could be anywhere. Without a county index of some sort it's nigh impossible to look through each parish record individually. Do you or does there exist an index for all the parishes that have been transcribed? I know that a number of Wiltshire parishes are not available on the net and have to be examined 'manually'.
Alls well that ends well  Dave
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Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukResearch: Clements, Jenkins, Jones, Williams, Davies, Renfrey in Cardiganshire. Trow, Jones, Clayton in Montgomeryshire. Renfrey, Datsun, May, Stephens in Cornwall Foster, Rogers in Liverpool Milliner, Fry, in Gloucestershire Mawby, Popple in Rutland Kent, Fry, Robinson, Nott, Griffiths in Somerset Willis in Oxfordshire Fishlock, Snell, Fry, Brown in Wiltshire |
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krisesjoint
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Hi Dave,
To my knowledge, sadly no, there is no County Index. (Nimrods claim to have all Marriages but as you know but money required) We have some on IGI, some on BIVRI (not bad for Wiltshire) Boyds, Pallots, Phillimores, etc handy, but a lot needs the hard slogging you do at the microfiche reader, slow, and as you say without knowing where to look very hit and miss......One Day.........Kris
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plimmerian
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WOW! thanks guys you've made it look so easy!
I haven't a clue to the lay of the land in that neck of the woods so feel like I'm stumbling through this a bit.
You guys seem to have put the jigsaw together and now it seems so clear - why didn't I see it before?!  
Thanks for all your help - I can now send for the marriage certificate and find out Isaac's father's name (I hope!)
Keep you posted, best wishes,
Ian  
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krisesjoint
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Hi Ian,
Glad to help. It is funny what a different eye spots. I looked at Dave's baptism and the first thing that came to me was Isaac Leader cannot be too common. A child born in the right parish at the right time to Isaac but mother is wrong - I knew it had to be a second marriage.
Lucky the second marriage was after civil registration so that you can get the cert. This looks like Isaac, I note he gives his pob as Broad Hinton
Isaac LEADER was baptised Broad Hinton 4 Dec 1803 parents William and Ann
William LEADER = Ann RUDMAN 18 Oct 1792 Broad Hinton
Cheers Kris
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plimmerian
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Heck! Your fountain of knowledge is endless. LOL 
Can't thank you enough for passing it on to me!
Best wishes,
Ian.
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krisesjoint
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You are very welcome Ian. Here are Isaac's siblings
William 25 Aug 1795
Selah (Female) 7 Jan 1798
Anne 7 Apr 1799
John 17 June 1800
Elizabeth 28 Sep 1806
Sara 27 Aug 1809
Richard 22 Dec 1811
Cheers Kris
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krisesjoint
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I haven't been able to find a baptism for William the father so thought I would look for burials hoping for an age, but alas I do not see William or Ann/e. Earlier records seem to indicate Wroughton as a probable pob. Quite a few burials there including a William 8 Nov 1825 aged 84 (a little old for this chap)
I suspect a lot of their children didn't make it although I can't be sure as ages are not listed, the register itself may confirm these by listing as the son/dau of ........
Broad Hinton Burials
Selah 3 May 1798
Anne 15 Apr 1799
John 20 June 1800
Elizabeth 28 Feb 1809
Sarah 30 May 1810
Kris
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krisesjoint
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Aha - Got him
Wm was baptised Wroughton 19 Apr 1767 parents Wm and Mary, so that must be his fathers burial in 1825
and this looks like Mary 27 Oct 1797 Wroughton aged 53 years
William and Ann are still living in 1841
HO107/1185/4 Folio 6 Page 5
Broad Hinton
LEADER William 70 Y Ag Lab
LEADER Ann 65 Y
Cheers Kris
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plimmerian
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Hi Kris,
Goin to call you the magician - you can just pull stuff out of no where! lol
I don't know where you are getting it all from but where ever, how ever, I am delighted that you are!
Thank you doesn't seem enough but thank you anyway!
VERY best wishes,
Ian.
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davierj
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Very impressive Kris particularly as there are so many parishes to the south of Swindon and the family seemed to move around a lot. As you know I'm a bit at sea when more than one parish is involved.
Back in harness late June, will try harder
Dave
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Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukResearch: Clements, Jenkins, Jones, Williams, Davies, Renfrey in Cardiganshire. Trow, Jones, Clayton in Montgomeryshire. Renfrey, Datsun, May, Stephens in Cornwall Foster, Rogers in Liverpool Milliner, Fry, in Gloucestershire Mawby, Popple in Rutland Kent, Fry, Robinson, Nott, Griffiths in Somerset Willis in Oxfordshire Fishlock, Snell, Fry, Brown in Wiltshire |
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plimmerian
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here's a rubber dingy for you! 
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