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Re: TICE in Hampshire or Berkshire - 1851/1841 look up
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 20 April 08 18:34 BST (UK) »

Oh dear - doesn't look good for Lewis (TICE as TYCE) in 1881:

Pauper patient in asylum!

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Re: TICE in Hampshire or Berkshire - 1851/1841 look up
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 20 April 08 22:08 BST (UK) »

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So should my Thomas TICE be Thomas TICE-BURROUGHS 

No idea.  Just that the name Tice appears in the baptisms list.  Someone obviously belonged to the Tice family - question is when?

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Re: TICE in Hampshire or Berkshire - 1851/1841 look up
« Reply #17 on: Monday 21 April 08 10:23 BST (UK) »

ok Nell thanks!
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Re: TICE in Hampshire or Berkshire - 1851/1841 look up
« Reply #18 on: Monday 21 April 08 11:33 BST (UK) »

Okay - this is what I have:

As Nell said,

- Thomas s/o William & Ann of Yateley, born 12.2.1807, baptised 15.3.1807

His parents  marriage:

- May 11 1799 William Tice Burrows, bach otp  & Ann Parr, spin otp Banns

Their other children (Thomas's siblings):

- Bp Mar 9 1800 William Tice Burrows s/o William Tice & Ann Burrows
- Apr 5 1801 John Tice Burrows s/o William & Ann Tice Burrows
- Jun 13 1802 James Burrows s/o William & Ann Tice Burrows
- May 19 1816 Frances d/o William & Ann Tice of Yateley, labourer.

Their father - William Tice Burrows - was illegitimate - hence the double name (although it seems to have been a bit of an affectation, as he wasn't baptised Tice Burrows, and I think the poor parish clerk has got thoroughly confused!!):

- Jan 20 1773 William Tyse (illegitimate) s/o William Tyse & Maria Burrows.

His father William Tyse was baptised:

- Feb 1 1749 William s/o John & Mary Tyse.

Siblings:

- Nov 20 1747 John
- Nov 6 1748 Benjamin (buried 1749)
- Feb 4 1751 Mary & Frances (twin daughters, Mary buried 1752, Frances buried 1753)
- Jan 21 1754 Benjamin (this is my greatx5 grandfather)
- Nov 17 1756 James

Their mother Mary was buried Oct 13 1767.

After having William Tice Burrows with Maria in 1773, William snr , miller of the parish of Yateley, appears to have married Apr 16 1775 to Sarah Harrison, spinster of Elstead, Surrey by licence.

I hope you can unravel all that -- don't hesitate to get back to me with any questions - I'll answer them if I can!!

Jill
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John Frith mge to Fanny, Bucks? c 1798
Bathsheba Boothroyd bp W Yks c1802
John Bishop bp E Yks c1758
Joseph Symonds mg to Sarah, prob Berks c 1735-40
John Horwood mg to Martha, Berks c 1735-40
Sarah Sculler bp  Berks area c 1675
Paul Phillips bp  Berks/Bucks c 1720
William Newell bp Berks/Bucks/Oxon c 1765
Richard Troughton mg to Jane, Westmoreland c 1732
Mary Simon bp Shrops c.1795
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Re: TICE in Hampshire or Berkshire - 1851/1841 look up
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 23 April 08 17:01 BST (UK) »

WOW!
Jill, I'm blown away - and there's you saying you didn't know much!!! Grin

I'm just trying to understand it all - so much info in such a short space of time.

Am I correct in thinking that Ann PARR m. in 1799 is also Ann BURROWS / Ann TICE BURROWS / Ann TICE as mentioned on her off-springs bap. details and this is were the parish clerk was confused?!?
Shocked Undecided

But apart from that I think I follow the rest of what you have told me.
Cool

Thanks for all your input - I need a lie down now lol

best wishes,

Ian. Cheesy


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Re: TICE in Hampshire or Berkshire - 1851/1841 look up
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 23 April 08 17:23 BST (UK) »

Hi Ian,

Yes - that would be my take on the Ann Parr/Tice/Burrows etc lady.

Wouldn't it be interesting to see if she was related to Catherine Parr - one of Henry VIII's wives? But that's another story...

For what it's worth, I think your William and my Benjamin's parents were John Tice and Mary Plim who married at St George's Chapel, Mayfair, London on 27 April 1746. The marriage entry states that John was from Staines in Middlesex and Mary from Egham in Surrey - within a couple of miles of each other, and neither very far from Yateley or Elstead, which is where I think John was baptised in 1712.

Hope you enjoy your lie down!!  Grin

Jill
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John Frith mge to Fanny, Bucks? c 1798
Bathsheba Boothroyd bp W Yks c1802
John Bishop bp E Yks c1758
Joseph Symonds mg to Sarah, prob Berks c 1735-40
John Horwood mg to Martha, Berks c 1735-40
Sarah Sculler bp  Berks area c 1675
Paul Phillips bp  Berks/Bucks c 1720
William Newell bp Berks/Bucks/Oxon c 1765
Richard Troughton mg to Jane, Westmoreland c 1732
Mary Simon bp Shrops c.1795
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Re: TICE in Hampshire or Berkshire - 1851/1841 look up
« Reply #21 on: Friday 25 April 08 21:27 BST (UK) »

Hi

Had a reply from the Yateley Society and was directed here:

http://yateleylocalhistory.pbwiki.com/YateleyParishRecords

been very useful!!!

So from stuff posted here, stuff from there, IGI entries and census entries so far searched I have speculated:

John TYSE c1712(-c1784?) m. 1746, Mary PLIM issue:
John TYSE c1747(-c1784?)
*William TYSE c1749
Benjamin TYSE c1748-1749
Mary TYSE 1751-1752
Frances TYSE 1751-1753
Benjamin TYSE 1754
James TYSE 1756

*William with Maria BURROWS produced:
**William TICE BURROWS 1773-1861 m. 1799, Ann PARR issue:
***William TICE BURROWS 1800-1873 m. 1832, Martha NOKE c1814-1898
John TICE BURROWS 1801-1877 m. 1830, Sarah KIMBLE c1803-1877
James TICE BURROWS 1802-1890 m.1837, Jane LANGHORN
Thomas TICE 1807 m. 1833, Mary MOON
Frances TICE 1816-1859
 
*William m. 1775, Sarah HARRISON 

***William & Martha issue:
James TICE BURROWS 1833-1873
Anne TICE 1836 m. 1859, John HOBSON
****Charlotte TICE 1841
Mary TICE 1845 m. 1871, John WHITE

****Charlotte issue:
William (BURROWS/BURROUGHS) TICE 1860-1941 m. 1886, Emily VASS c1859-1919 issue:
Maud Mary TICE 1886-1974
Harold Ernest TICE 1888
William Henry TICE 1889-1982 m. ? Ellen ? c1892-1977
James Edward TICE 1892
Sidney Walter TICE 1893-1893
Winifred Martha TICE 1894
Emily Blanche TICE 1898

****Charlotte BURROWS TICE m. 1868 Joseph WINTER

other links to follow!!! Tongue Shocked
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Re: TICE in Hampshire or Berkshire - 1851/1841 look up
« Reply #22 on: Friday 25 April 08 21:44 BST (UK) »

continued:

John TICE BURROWS m.1830 Sarah KIMBLE issue:
Anne TICE 1834 m. 1864, John KILBOURN
Sarah TICE 1836-1838
Frances TICE 1839 m. 1871, Benjamin NOAKES
Henry TICE 1842 m. 1867, Emma WARNER issue:
Frank H. TICE c1869, Arthur G. TICE c1872, Albert J. TICE c1875

James BURROWS aka James TICE BURROWS m. 1837 Jane LANGHORN issue:
?Allan TICE? 1838
Eliza TICE 1839
Sarah TICE 1841-1895
*Ellen TICE 1845
Elizabeth TICE 1848 m. 1873, David RENNIE
Jane TICE 1850 -1852
David TICE 1853 m. 1879, Alice HALL (issue: William D. TYCE c1881)
Ruth TICE 1855 m. ?, Walter GUNTHORPE

*Ellen issue:
Alfred George Coombes TICE 1866
*Ellen TICE m. 1866 Alfred COOMBS

Thomas TICE m. 1833 Mary MOON issue:
Mary Ann TICE c1836-1836
George TICE c1837-1917 m.1868, Amelia BILLEN
Owen Oscar TICE c1840-1906 m. 1866, Eliza GODWIN
Mary (Ann) TICE c1843 (m. 1860, John George LOTON/LOWTEN)
Charles Claude TICE c1846-1915 m. 1873, Emma Maria GREGORY
Alfred TICE c1849 m. 1871, Emma Louisa GODDARD
Lewis TICE c1851

(see reply No.8 above)

I hope you're keeping up!  Cheesy Grin

Not sure I am.  Shocked Embarrassed
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Re: TICE in Hampshire or Berkshire - 1851/1841 look up
« Reply #23 on: Friday 25 April 08 22:29 BST (UK) »

George TICE m. 1868, Amelia BILLEN issue:
Thomas George TICE c1870 m. 1894, Jessie MORRIS
Ernest TICE c1871 m. 1892, Annie SHEPPARD
Albert TICE c1872 m. 1899, Alice Emily EAST
Clara TICE c1874 m. 1900, Thomas Frederick ALCOTT
Harry TICE c1876 (- 1896 age 19?)
Amelia TICE c1878 m. 1906, BLORE or HOAR
George TICE c1880
William TICE c1882 (missing from 1901 census)
Rose TICE c1884
May TICE c1885
Mary Annie TICE c1888 m. 1915 Herbert LEADER (my step-father's direct ancestors)

Thomas George & Jessie issue:
Winifred Alice TICE c1898 (d. b4 1915)
Stanley Edwin TICE c1901 m. 1926, Adelaide E. RANKIN
speculation:
Sidney G. TICE c1912
Winifred E. TICE c1915
George TICE c1917

Ernest & Annie issue:
Daisy Lily TICE c1894 m. 1917,  ? WRIGHT issue:
Joan L. WRIGHT c1920

Albert & Alice issue:
Helen (Alice) TICE c1899

All speculative but hope someone can confirm in the near future!

best wishes,

Ian  Cool
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Re: TICE in Hampshire or Berkshire - 1851/1841 look up
« Reply #24 on: Friday 25 April 08 23:11 BST (UK) »

quick IGI found:

John TICE
bap. 28 MAR 1712, Elstead, Surrey
Father, Josep TICE 

and

Mary PLYM
bap. 14 NOV 1714, Egham, Surrey
Parents, William PLYM & Mary

any clues?

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Re: TICE in Hampshire / Berkshire / Surrey
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 26 April 08 10:34 BST (UK) »

Not bad for a week's work, eh?   Grin

I agree with those last baptisms for John Tice and Mary Plim -

there are 2 siblings for John: Mary 1715 & Frances 1717 (these appear to be family names).

I have Joseph Tice baptised Elstead 12 Feb 1678 but can't find a marriage for him.

I have the following sibs for Mary Plim/Plym (all Egham):
William 1715
Richard 1719
Hugh 1721
James 1724
Thomas 1726
Elizabeth 1728
Sarah 1731

and a possible marriage for William Plim:

William Plim & Mary Martin 28 Dec 1712 Egham.

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Major brickwalls:
John Frith mge to Fanny, Bucks? c 1798
Bathsheba Boothroyd bp W Yks c1802
John Bishop bp E Yks c1758
Joseph Symonds mg to Sarah, prob Berks c 1735-40
John Horwood mg to Martha, Berks c 1735-40
Sarah Sculler bp  Berks area c 1675
Paul Phillips bp  Berks/Bucks c 1720
William Newell bp Berks/Bucks/Oxon c 1765
Richard Troughton mg to Jane, Westmoreland c 1732
Mary Simon bp Shrops c.1795
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Re: TICE in Hampshire / Berkshire / Surrey
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 26 April 08 18:47 BST (UK) »

So much info seeping from everywhere!  Shocked

It's taken me years to get half of what's here with other branches of family research Roll Eyes

thanks for all your input - I don't know where I'll put it all LOL  Grin

Best wishes,

Ian.
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