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Star_kar
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I am not sure if this is possible without buying a birth certificate, but I am trying to confirm the parents of Gertrude Crew, born about 4 May 1905. Her parents should be William Crew and Female, last name likely Beardsmore, first name might be Margaret. May have had a brother named George.
Can anyone tell me if they show up together somewhere in the 1901 census or any other census? Any details on either of them would be much appreciated, or on Gertrude for that matter.
The family emigrated to Canada around 1923.
Thanks 
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Reid, Caton, Shinkfield, Claxton, Rodhouse (England)
Russell (Ireland)
Hoelscher/Holscher (Germany)
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charlotteCH
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Have you thought of looking on freebmd for the marriage of William CREW in or before 1905 and seeing if on the transcribed page for his marriage there is a female who looks like the correct one? Don't assume they were married 9 months before!
Google for freebmd and the search in marriages- 1905 should be completely online by now.
That's how I'd start the hunt- it's free and online.
Let us know how you go.
charlotte
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HARGREAVES, HANSON, BAILEY, BURTON, HEWITT, JAGGER, LOCKWOOD, UTTLEY, RUDD, TAYLOR, HOLDEN, SHAW Halifax / Sowerby/ Southowram 18C+
GILL, Accrington, Blackburn, West Derby, Lancs, migrated USA 1891 to RI: GILL in SC: HOTCHKISS in RI: PELOQUIN in RI
HUMPHRIES, HILLIER, ALLEN, LYDBURY Nunney/Frome 18-19C
HUMPHRIES, JOYCE, HEWITT, ROBINSON, McMULLEN, SUFFEL, CARNEY, MARRON, COMPTON, FREEMAN Ont. Canada 1830+
PILSEN, Sask.
82nd Regt of Foot 1808-1825
1st WRY Militia 1780-1800
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Ruskie
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Searching the 1901 census for a William Crew with wife Margaret throws up 2 possiblities:
One living in Dudley, Worcestershire. William is a blacksmith and a son in law living with the Guest family. There are several Guest children and William and Margaret have a 1 year old daur called Annie.
The other family -: William Crew is 49, living in Lewisham London with Margaret and 6 children.
A search for just a William Crew, place unknown, age unknown, shows 111 people of that name.
Is possible sibling George, older or younger than Gerturde? There are a lot of George Crews on Freebmd I'm afraid ....
Looking at freebmd there is a marriage in Dec 1/4 1902 for a William Henry Crew Bristol 6a 415, possible spouses are Margaret Edwards or Nelly Cox.
Freebmd shows is no birth for a Gertrude Crew reg in 1905. There is one reg Toxteth Park in 1900 and one in Stourbridge in 1904?
I think we may need more information to narrow down the correct family.
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jorose
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http://www.findmypast.com/passengerListPersonSearchStart.action - shows a Gertrude Crew b. 1901 with what appears to be parents William (b. 1869) and Elizabeth (b. 1871) going to the US - either NY or Boston, there seem to be multiple entries.
On EI they list William's brother, E. Crew, in Liverpool, and William and Elizabeth's son, G. W. Crew, in Brooklyn (George?)
There is a George W. Crew who arrived in 1919 aged 23.
They may have later moved from the US to Canada.
There's a possible marriage for William Crew(e) to Elizabeth Margaret Anderton on freebmd (1890), and on the CA death index: http://vitals.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ca/death/search.cgi , a George W Crew born 1896 mmn Anderton.
Do you know where in Canada Gertrude ended up?
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Ruskie
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Jorose, I don't suppose in among that great information it mentions whereabouts in England they originated? 
(just realised I could find that information on the freebmd marriage that you found  )
So we should be looking for a William and Elizabeth in the 1891 census as the family may have already left England by the 1901 census.
I've got to go out now but will have another look later ...
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Star_kar
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I can tell you for sure that Gertrude and her parents eventually ended up in Montreal, Quebec. It is very likely there were in Canada by 1923 or 1924.
I have also looked on the Free BMD site, but couldn't find the right match. Altering the last name to Crewe did come up with a Gertrude and George, but still no marriage between a Crew/Crewe and Beardsmore.
George may have sailed at a different time or with the rest of the family. It is possible the family arrived in New York as George is thought to have spent some time there before finally leaving for California.
I still feel the name Beardsmore is important. Gertrude and her husband, Leslie William Gordon Reid had two sons. One of which, my grandfather, was given the middle name Wolfendale, Leslie Reid's mom's maiden name. His brother was given the middle name Beardsmore, which, if the pattern is followed through, should have been Gertrude's mom's maiden name.
Will see if I can find some more info, but thanks to all those who have helped so far.
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jorose
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They were from Liverpool - they sailed in 1924 according to fmp, and may have gone directly from there to Canada across the border. I believe the family are in Toxteth Park in 1901, which gives all of them as born in Liverpool.
There is a possible marriage in Liverpool in 1867 on freebmd - Thomas Anderton and Elizabeth Beardsmore, and in 1881 this family are in Toxteth Park with a ten-year-old daughter Elizabeth M. Anderton.
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Ruskie
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That looks very promising Jorose
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Ruskie
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Found them! And confirmed Jorose's great detective work.
1901
30 David St Toxteth park
William crew head mar 34 Pavier Road lab b Liverpool
Elizabeth wife 30
Geo W son 4
Gertrude daur 11 months
Bertha Anderton () sis in law single age 15
RG13 peice 3431 folio 166 page 36
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Ruskie
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And in 1891
Wilson St
Toxteth Park
William Crew head mar 24 Pavior Road b Liverpool
Elizabeth M wife 20
RG12 piece 2929 folio 89 page 4
This fits in with the marriage that Jorose found on freebmd for 1890 ( & no children yet). If you purchased that marriage certificate you would find both father's names, occupations etc.
Good luck.
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Ruskie
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This may be son William b 1867 with his parents:
1881
RG11/3647/122/37
65 Miles St, Toxteth Park, Liverpool
William Crew head mar 60 gardener and milk dealer b Denbighshire Rossett
Margaret wife 51 b Rossett
Thomas son 19 engine turner b Liverpool
William son 14 b office boy L'pool
Some Welsh ancestry for you
confirmation required of course 
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