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susan p
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I am trying to find out what a countryman is or was.I have this on a marriage cert as father`s rank or profession,Willow thinks it may be some sort of gamekeeper.Any one else got an idea.
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Henrici Durham,Henderson,sunderland,durham
Buckenham Norfolk/suffolk,Beveridge,McQueen,Brownleescotland.Crackwell,Suffolk,
mothersole Suffolk
Gibson Sedgefield Durham
Evans Shropshire/Northormesby,Tadman
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stanmapstone
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Re: What is a
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From the Oxford English Dictionary:
Countryman: One who lives in the country or rural parts and follows a rural occupation; a husbandman.
Husbandman is the old word for a farmer below the rank of yeoman. A husbandman usually held his land by copyhold or leasehold tenure, and may be regarded as the average farmer in his locality. The words yeoman and husbandman were gradually replaced in the late 18th. and 19th. centuries by farmer.
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Not absolutely sure, but I think a husbandman usually cared for farm animals. I have a friend whose father gave that as his (present-day) occupation, and he looks after cattle etc, from other farmers, on his own land, but doesn't have anything to do with the breeding, selling or slaughtering side.
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PRICE Edward (c.1860) Harry PRICE (1891) Frank PRICE (c.1897), Arthur PRICE (1884). Compton, Tettenhall, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire.
GARFIELD, Edgbaston and Wolverhampton
JOHNSON, Wolverhampton and Bilston
ATKINS, Wolverhamptonand Bilston
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stanmapstone
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The Dictionary of Occupational Terms of people who worked in the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, states that husbandman is a Welsh term for a farm worker experienced in all branches of farm work and able to plough, sow, reap, milk, tend sheep and cattle, thatch, repair ditches etc. and usually acts as a headman or foreman.
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The Dictionary of Occupational Terms of people who worked in the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, states that husbandman is a Welsh term for a farm worker experienced in all branches of farm work and able to plough, sow, reap, milk, tend sheep and cattle, thatch, repair ditches etc. and usually acts as a headman or foreman.
Stan
Hi Stan,
Nice to know an older term is still in use today?
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PRICE Edward (c.1860) Harry PRICE (1891) Frank PRICE (c.1897), Arthur PRICE (1884). Compton, Tettenhall, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire.
GARFIELD, Edgbaston and Wolverhampton
JOHNSON, Wolverhampton and Bilston
ATKINS, Wolverhamptonand Bilston
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peter brownlee
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In the North East a husbandland was one of the divisions of the common fields of a village, also carrying grazing rights on the common, and divided among the tenant farmers. So a husbandman was one who occupied a husbandland, as opposed to a labourer with no rights to land. Later with the gradual enclosure of village fields and common land and the widespread adoption by landlords of farm leases, it came to be used more loosely of any tenant farmer.
I think the original Countryman description which sparked this debate was of an elderly man living among miners and industrial labourers. probably retired from active farming.
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According to "The Local Historian's Encyclopedia" a Husbandland was generally the equivalent of a Hide, but in some northern and Scottish areas could be as little as 20 acres.
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A husbandman was a tenant farmer who cultivated the land. He would have a rent or labour obligation to the person from whom he rented the land
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Living in Berkshire. Origin Northampton & Milton Keynes DETAILS OF THE FOLLOWING NAMES CAN BE FOUND IN SURNAME INTERESTS AT FOOT OF PAGE Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Williams, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley. Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse Census Info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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My GGGGrandfather is described on his son's marriage certificate (1838) as a Countryman. His son also at the time of his marriage is also a countryman. They were quite simply Agricultural labourers.
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