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« on: Sunday 20 April 08 00:46 BST (UK) »

I believe Crewkerne is now in somerset?
I have a gggrandfather,Harold James TAYLOR whom I believe lived there in the 1900's. He may have been a refrigeration specialist in public houses , or ran a public house. Weife Anne Dyke Morgan
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Re: crewkerne
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 20 April 08 06:40 BST (UK) »

Hi vbain,

Bit of a guess here but I can see this:

marriage Sep 1896 Headington 3a 1483
Annie Dyke Morgan to possibly Jim Taylor

1901 census
RG13/792 149 6
Canterbury, Kent
5a Martyrs Field

Jim Taylor, head, 27, Inronmonger Manager, b. Somerset Crewkerne
Annie D, wife, 30, b. Dorset Gillingham
James H, son, 3, b. Wilts New Swindon
Sylvia M, dau, 2 mo, b. Kent Canterbury
Agnes B Cole, servant, 13, General servant domestic, b. Kent Chilham

Looking at BMD, Annie seems to have been a bit older than 30 actually, and Jim was registered as Jim - not Harold James Undecided Their son might have been James Harold however.

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Re: crewkerne
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 20 April 08 20:12 BST (UK) »

You are great!
That would be our Jim. They all went to Saskatchewan to Moosejaw and later to Regina.
There, Sylvia met Anton Nilson from Us (Orig. Sweden), and here we are.
There were a lot of James HArolds in the family (i think they are James Harold, not harold hjames, - my fault.)
Thanks again for the help.
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Re: crewkerne
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 20 April 08 20:22 BST (UK) »

Good!  Smiley

This seems to be Jim in 1881:
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&indiv=try&h=18574372
RG11/2387 38 9

Hope the link opens for you. Else the 1881 census is also free to search at www.familysearch.org

An Annie Dyke Morgan birth is registered in 1865:
Annie Dyke Morgan Sep 1865 
Shaftesbury 5a 223

I suppose this is her in 1881:
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&indiv=try&h=3627911
RG11/2083 19 17

I can trace these Morgans back - shout if you want details
(RG10/1971 47 7; RG9/1328 42 3, Marriage Louisa Abbott / Henry Morgan Shaftesbury Dec 1853 although Henry probably wasn't Annie's father)
Also the Taylors (the parents marry Mar 1866 Chard)
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Re: crewkerne
« Reply #4 on: Monday 21 April 08 14:53 BST (UK) »

Here is what we have. It is fairly complete,
1.  HENRY1 MORGAN
      Farmer.
   Deceased before Annie Dyke Morgan's wedding in 1896.
   
Children of HENRY MORGAN are:
2.i.   ANNIE DYKE2 MORGAN, b. 12 Jun 1864; d. 10 Nov 1934, Winnipeg, Manitoba (Brookside Cemetery).
ii.   LOUISA SARAH MORGAN, d. 22 Dec 1895, Oxford.
iii.   HARRY MORGAN.


2.  ANNIE DYKE2 MORGAN (HENRY1) was born 12 Jun 1864, and died 10 Nov 1934 in Winnipeg, Manitoba (Brookside Cemetery).  She married JAMES (JIM) TAYLOR 03 Aug 1896 in Cowley, St. John, Oxfordshire, son of JAMES TAYLOR and MARY GANGE.  He was born 24 Nov 1872, and died 29 Mar 1945 in Vancouver, British Columbia (Ocean View Cemetary).
Notes for ANNIE DYKE MORGAN:
On the marriage certificate, it says that Annie was a spinster and Jim Taylor was a Bachelor employed as an Ironmonger.

Children of ANNIE MORGAN and JAMES TAYLOR are:
3.i.   SYLVIA MARY LOUISE3 TAYLOR, b. 13 Jan 1901, Canterbury, England; d. 26 Jan 1980, Regina, Saskatchewan.
ii.   JAMES HAROLD TAYLOR, b. 09 Aug 1897; m. FLORENCE TAYLOR, Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan; b. Canterbury, England.
4.iii.   KATHLEEN BLANCHE TAYLOR, (Kay) b. 21 Jan 1906; d. 06 Aug 1969, Vancouver, British Columbia.

TAYLOR
Generation #1
1.  JAMES1 TAYLOR was born 02 Apr 1842, and died 25 Mar 1903 in Crewkerne, Dorset, England.  He married MARY GANGE 13 Feb 1866.  She was born 07 Oct 1839, and died 04 Apr 1928.

Notes for JAMES TAYLOR:
Employed as an aerated water manufacturer (?)

Children of JAMES TAYLOR and MARY GANGE are:
2.i.   JAMES (JIM)2 TAYLOR, b. 24 Nov 1872; d. 29 Mar 1945, Vancouver, British Columbia (Ocean View Cemetary).
ii.   THOMAS TAYLOR, b. 06 May 1868; d. 14 Jun 1869.
iii.   FLORENCE MARY TAYLOR, b. 18 Mar 1869; d. 24 Nov 1874.
iv.   BLANCHE TAYLOR, b. 01 Dec 1870; m. HARRY RAPSON, 04 Dec 1901.
v.   MABEL ROSE TAYLOR, b. 19 May 1874; d. 14 May 1875.
3.vi.   FLORENCE EMILY TAYLOR, b. 24 Nov 1875.
   vii.   THOMAS TAYLOR, b. 02 Jan 1877.
Notes for THOMAS TAYLOR:
There is another Thomas Taylor died 12 May 1901 aged 62. Interred in Crewkerne Cemetery on May 15.

Generation No. 2
2.  JAMES (JIM)2 TAYLOR (JAMES1) was born 24 Nov 1872, and died 29 Mar 1945 in Vancouver, British Columbia (Ocean View Cemetary).  He married ANNIE DYKE MORGAN 03 Aug 1896 in Cowley, St. John, Oxfordshire, daughter of HENRY MORGAN.  She was born 12 Jun 1864, and died 10 Nov 1934 in Winnipeg, Manitoba (Brookside Cemetery).

Notes for JAMES (JIM) TAYLOR:
From Dorset County, England. We met Cousin Mary  a niece of Jim.
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Re: crewkerne
« Reply #5 on: Monday 21 April 08 15:48 BST (UK) »

Hmmm. Not meaning to set the cat among the pidgeons but do you have any hard evidence that Annie's actual father was Henry? I'm wondering because her mother was already registered as widowed in 1861 (Also: good news, there were more children than you mention! Cheesy)

1871
RG10/1971 47 7
West Stower, Dorset

Louisa Morgan, head, wid, 37, Dress Maker, b. Sodber Dorset
Louisa Sarah, dau, 17, Dressmaker, b. Vincent St Middlesex
James Charles, son, 15, Labourer, b. Duckett St
Albert John, son, 8, scholar, b. West Stower
Annie, dau, 5, scholar, b. do.
Harry, son, 1, b. do.

1861
RG9/1328 42 3
West Stower, Dorset

Louisa Morgan, head, widow, 28, Dressmaker, b. Sodber
Louisa Sarah, dau, 7, scholar, b. Middlesex Stepney
Chas Jas, son, 5, scholar, b. do.
Fredk Edwd, son, 3, scholar, b. Shadwell London


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Re: crewkerne
« Reply #6 on: Monday 21 April 08 15:57 BST (UK) »

Well, no, I had no idea, Marquesetta!
Isn't it amazing what you find.
I surely hope you will have some Canada Questions for me, so I can pay down some of your amazing research.
The thing about Louise "Morgan" certainly supports my mother always saying that her grandmother, in the 20's could look at a magazine, and make a dress from a picture. She was what was known as  'fashion thief" who sould outfit the less well-to-do at a lower cost.
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« Reply #7 on: Monday 21 April 08 16:10 BST (UK) »

I'm certainly not expecting anything back Cheesy (but I'll sure keep you in mind in case I discover someone from Canada! Grin)

Great talent, dressmaking!  Smiley

Louisa, I believe, was nee Abbott.  In 1851 she's a house servant age 18 at Marnhull Dorset. Unfortunately I can't identify her in 1841 (there is an Abbot family in Todber but they don't seem to have a Louisa) Sad 
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« Reply #8 on: Monday 21 April 08 16:22 BST (UK) »

I've just found one (well, providing Lusey is Louisa) in Stower Provost, which according to genuki is just 3 miles from Todber. Can't promise she's the one! Only the marriage cert would tell ...

1841
HO107/293 24 6 6
Stower Provost

James Abbott, 28, Ag lab
Maryann, 28
Lusey, 7
James, 5
Mary, 6
Ellan, 3
Ann, 1

All born in county.

The oldest daughter isn't with the family in 1851, but they all give their birth places as Stour Provost  Undecided
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« Reply #9 on: Monday 21 April 08 17:31 BST (UK) »

James Taylor born 1842's parents were Thomas and Philadelphia (probably Hutchings). Do you already have the details, or would you like them?  Smiley
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Re: crewkerne
« Reply #10 on: Monday 21 April 08 18:05 BST (UK) »

yes please, Marquesetta:
How are you finding all this stuff? Are you an ancestry member?
I've been thinking about that.
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« Reply #11 on: Monday 21 April 08 18:43 BST (UK) »

Yes, I have a subscription to view census.

1851
HO107/1928 445 6
Crewkerne
Market Place

Thomas Taylor, head, mar, 45, Inn Keeper
P, wife, 42, Innkeeper's wife
Elizth, dau, 16, Dressmaker's app
Thos, son, 13, Plaisterer's App
Jas, son, 8, scholar
Geo, son, 5, scholar
Edwd, son, 1
Elizth Hutchings, sister in law, unm, 50, Bar Maid
+ 2 servants

all born Crewkerne

1841
HO107/940 2 23 6
Crewkerne, Somerset
Market Place

Thomas Taylor, 35, Publican
Philadelphia, 30
Thomas, 3
Elizabeth, 6
Thirza, 3 months

Elizabeth Hutchings is living next door.

All born Somerset
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« Reply #12 on: Monday 21 April 08 18:55 BST (UK) »

Funnily enough, according to this 1881 census:
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&indiv=try&h=18573030
James' sister Elizabeth also married into the Genge family!   

Thomas seems to have died between 1861 and 1871.
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Re: crewkerne
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 22 April 08 00:16 BST (UK) »

another zinger, Marquessate ( I think I have at last spelt it correctly!)
No I didn't know any of this. A niece did the initial work and didn't go very far back, especially with the Germans and Swedes.
Thanks agin, I really do appreciate it!
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« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 22 April 08 07:05 BST (UK) »

Just call me Tati  Wink

I won't be able to help with the Germans and the Swedes (but you could post a request on the immigrants board http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,135.0.html)

I wonder if it would be useful to get Annie Dyke Morgan's birth cert in the offchance it shows a father's name (we could suspect a Mr Dyke, of course, but there are too many to take a guess). Then probably the father's name will just be blank. 

Just going through FreeBMD (http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/) ...
The most likely death I see for Thomas Taylor is
Thomas Taylor
Sep 1861 Chard 5c  300

And Philapdelphia's death:
Philadelphia Taylor age 82
Mar 1892 Chard 5c 341 

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