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Topic: 1851 cencus needle in haystack! (Read 222 times)
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CaroleW
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Hi Pat
None b Sutton Trent in 1851 I'm afraid. I did a search a year either side of 1846 and it threw up 27 entries - 25 if you ignore the 2 with middle names
Same in 1861
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CaroleW
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The 1871 has a much older John Smith b Sutton on the Hill living in Church Broughton but I checked the 1851 and they didn't have a son called John
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Beard grandchild
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Thanks to you both,
Right, I'm working backwards from the 1881 cencus, when John Smith, born 1846 Suton on trent was living in Clowne with his 1st wife Mary and family
I also have him on the1891 cencus with his 2cnd wife Elizabeth and family.
If I am on the right lines, I then have him again on the 1871 cencus living as a boarder in St. Alkmund, Derby. household 31.
I cannot latch onto him on the 1861 cencus, which was why I thought if I went back to the 1851, when he was a child, that I might get another foothold there. It is not an easy name to pin down!!
If anyone can be of any help tracking him down I would be extremely grateful,
Cheers, Pat
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Names;- Beard -Worcestershire
Blessington - Burton on Trent/ East Lothian
Snow - Isle of Axholme
Torn - Owston Ferry, Lincolnshire
Gleadle - Lincolnshire
Allen - Nottinghamshire/ Derbyshire
Smith -Nottinghamshire/ Derbyshire
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jacques
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Hello Pat
Have you dismissed this one on 1861
@ Nuns Place St Alkmund Derby
Elizabeth Smith Head Widow 54 Laundress Born Derby
JOHN SMITH Son 15 Brick Maker " "
Pam
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Beard grandchild
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Thanks Pam,
I hadn't found that one, and that sounds quite likely, doesn't it? That , hopefully, might get me going again with these wretched Smiths.
I have read that Smith can be a Romany name, and we've definately some of those sort of genes in the family judging by the black-haired, dark-eyed children that keep popping up here and there in each generation, so it could get even more difficult to trace as i go back.
Still, with the help we get on here, someone always comes up with something useful,
Thanks again,
Cheers, Pat.
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Names;- Beard -Worcestershire
Blessington - Burton on Trent/ East Lothian
Snow - Isle of Axholme
Torn - Owston Ferry, Lincolnshire
Gleadle - Lincolnshire
Allen - Nottinghamshire/ Derbyshire
Smith -Nottinghamshire/ Derbyshire
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jacques
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You are welcome. If there is anything else you would like me to look at feel free.
By the way I married a Smith so I know what you mean. I have a brick wall with Smith but is in Cornwall area. Later they moved to Derbyshire Peak District so I don't think there is a connection, sadly
Regards Pam
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Beard grandchild
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Hi Pam,
If you come across my John Smith anywhere on the 1851 cencus, as I still haven't established where he was born, it would be a help. I've come up with Sutton on Trent , but nobody could find him on the cencus as born that year. It could be a case of him being registered a few months after birth, thus making registration the next year. I've had that a couple of times in my previous research, and, when you know a definate date of birth, it really throws you! 
Thanks again,
Pat.
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Names;- Beard -Worcestershire
Blessington - Burton on Trent/ East Lothian
Snow - Isle of Axholme
Torn - Owston Ferry, Lincolnshire
Gleadle - Lincolnshire
Allen - Nottinghamshire/ Derbyshire
Smith -Nottinghamshire/ Derbyshire
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CatOne
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1851?
HO107/2135 Folio 281 Page 1
Sutton on Trent, Nottinghamshire
William Smith 40 Journeyman Carpenter Sutton on Trent
Elizabeth 39 Sutton on Trent
Mary 12 Egmanton
William 10 Ossington
Elizabeth 8 Ossington
John 5 Ossington
George 3 Egmanton
Sarah 10m Sutton on Trent
Regards
Cat 
ps, there is a birth registration for a John Smith in 1846 in the Southwell registration district.
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