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Topic: Surname intrests in The Lye area (Read 6365 times)
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Martinwootton
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Is anyone out there looking at Gadd, Southall or Liveter?
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Gadd,Moss, Southall,Robinson,Thompson,Wootton,Liviter. Birmingham, Ireland, Cumbria, Yorkshire, Isle of Man.
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behindthefrogs
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Have you added and checked your names in the Surname Interests Table?
The link is via "Your Surname Interests". Found at the bottom of every page
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Living in Berkshire. From Northampton & Milton Keynes DETAILS OF THE FOLLOWING NAMES ARE IN SURNAME INTERESTS, LINK AT FOOT OF PAGE Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Coupland, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley. Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse Census Info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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RachelK
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Hi everyone.
Just been reading through peoples surname interests, and wondered if any of you have come across the given FIRST name of Squire, or Esquire in your families.
It seems to have been connected to quite a few families in the Lye area and I'd be interested to know where it came from? The surname Squires? Names it seems to tie in with are GAUDEN, TAYLOR, HART, HILL, BINGHAM, FARLEY, CHANCE/CHAND, BAKER, BRADLEY, DICKENS, KNOWLES, TORDOFF
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Staffordshire - Kendrick, Higgs, Ralph, Mears, Egginton, Simkiss, Beebee, Hartshorn, Pitt, Howard, Law, Hilton, Humphreyson,
Worcestershire - Kendrick, Onions, Timmins, Harvey, Stephens, Hill
Shropshire - Williams, Wilcox, Moreton, Poole, Gennoe, Stedman, Astley, Morris, Roe
Carmarthenshire - Naylor
Montgomeryshire - Williams, Wilcox
Middlesex - Silver, Martin
Suffolk - Chenery
Somerset - Owen, Chorley, Rugg
Lancashire - Evans, Silver
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behindthefrogs
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It occurs in my Primett family but that is in Beds and Herts not the Lye area.
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Living in Berkshire. From Northampton & Milton Keynes DETAILS OF THE FOLLOWING NAMES ARE IN SURNAME INTERESTS, LINK AT FOOT OF PAGE Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Coupland, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley. Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse Census Info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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vcsanderson
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I have just started looking into my family history and have discovered a John Pardoe who was born in Lye. He was married to a Jane Lye although it would seem he left the area to move to Yorkshire (a place called Ledsham) where he lived with my great great grandmother. They went on to have several children. We get the impression from family stories that this was a huge scandal and not discussed. John Pardoe's father was Richard Pardoe and we believe they must have been a fairly wealthy family - they certainly had servants and a horse and carriage. Can anyone help me further. THis is my first posting on this site so I hope I have done this message correctly.
thanks, Vanessa
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vcsanderson
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oops - just spotted my first mistake - John Pardoe was married to Jane Pardoe (not Jane Lye) but they came from Lye near Worcester.
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linell
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What birth date do you have for John vcsanderson? I have John Pardoe born about 1853 son of George Pardoe and Elizabeth Brooks. 1851 they were in Dudley Road Lye. I don't have a Marriage for this John? Are you sure that your John Married a Jane Pardoe, or is that just a submitted entry from the IGI? Best Wishes from linell.
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Black Country Stringer, Sidaway, Mansell, Haynes, Westwood, Yardley, Reading, Worton, Willetts.
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vcsanderson
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sorry its taken so long to reply - my mother had all the details.
this is what we know :
John H Pardoe born in Lye in 1840
father's name we think was Richard Pardoe.
died in either 1901 or 1902 at 10 Top Row, Ledsham Newton, parish of Leeds
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linell
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Hi Vanessa, think this is them, they look a well off family, Richard was a Butcher.
1851 Census Turnpike Road Lye (that would be the main High Street which is now the Stourbridge Road, runs from Halesowen to Stourbridge.
Richard Pardoe Butcher 49 All family born Lye
Mariah Wife 46 Butchers Wife
Mary D 21 School Mistress
Sarah D 18 Infant School Teacher
Eliza D 16 Assists with Housework
Jane D 13
John Henry Son 11
Henry Joseph Son 7
Charles Richard Son 3
Next door is
Thomas Pardoe 51 U Nail Maker
John Pardoe Brother 65 Proprietor of Houses
They could be relalted to Richard?
Best Wishes from linell.
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Black Country Stringer, Sidaway, Mansell, Haynes, Westwood, Yardley, Reading, Worton, Willetts.
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vcsanderson
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thank you so much for this information - my mum will be able to confirm but if it is them then we have solved a family mystery that has gone on for years. Are you related to this family tree? thanks Vanessa
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linell
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Hi Vanessa, I think Richard's wife was Maria Hutton, they Married 29.5.1826 Kingswinford St Mary's. I don't know where you live but there are a selection of Books on Lye written by ( think it was Bill Pardoe from Lye.) I read them a few years ago from my Local Library. I do have some Lye Pardoe connections, but not your rich family  Best Wishes from linell.
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Black Country Stringer, Sidaway, Mansell, Haynes, Westwood, Yardley, Reading, Worton, Willetts.
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vcsanderson
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thanks Linell - I will try and get hold of the books. The family you mention is definitely my family. John Henry (one of the young boys was my great great grandfather). Its all very interesting and quite obsessisve (I've only really just got into this family tree lark!). Hope I have lots of rich relatives I can find !!!!! (only joking).
I really appreciate all your help. thanks so much, Vanessa
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jandap
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Hello all
Some Pardoe information:
Richard Pardoe b 1802 d 1887 was the son of Joseph Pardoe 1758 & Jane Brook 1761.
The 1871 census shows Richard as butcher & farmer of 12 acres. Even at the ripe age of 79 in 1881 he has the occupation of cow keeper. The enumeration district 2E for Lye in 1851 commences at Mr Richard Pardoe's butchers shop on the south side of the Stourbridge to Halesowen Turnpike road.
Joseph and Jane had 12 children and I know of three who were butchers - the aforesaid Richard, my gg grandfather George 1787 and Joseph 1793.
John 1785 and Thomas 1800 living next door to Richard in 1851 are indeed the batchelor brothers of Richard, and George and Joseph. The rest of the family was Betty 1782, Mary 1789, Jenny 1791, Elizabeth 1797, William 1798 and another Betty in 1804.
The set of books mentioned are authored by Pat Dunn who has written three so far in a series entitled 'Britain in Old Photographs - Lye and Wollescote', the same as a 'Second Selection' and the latest as the 'Third Collection', the first was written in conjunction with the late Denys Books. They appear quite often on ebay and in online booksellers catalogues. Bill Pardoe and his father, the photographer William Pardoe, are mentioned in various places in these books.
I have more on Pardoes if you are interested.
Arlen
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Pardoe, Pearson, Crampton, Lavender, Homer, Syner, Bellamy, Bloomer.
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