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Janice M
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Re: 1901 Census Help Please
« Reply #30 on: Wednesday 23 April 08 03:46 BST (UK) »

Could Benjamin have outlived his wife? This is a Benjamin Bowman transcribed as Dowman.

http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census/ViewFrame.jsp?id=48819&size=large&highlight=29

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Re: 1901 Census Help Please
« Reply #31 on: Wednesday 23 April 08 03:56 BST (UK) »

That's a great find, Janice, but Sophia is alive and well in 1911, just can't find her in 1901...
Sophia's death info was back here...
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,300289.msg1825422

Look at that poor Benjamin Janice found...Five Capital Bs in a row and still couldn't get it right...Surely is a "B" though, isn't it...
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Re: 1901 Census Help Please
« Reply #32 on: Wednesday 23 April 08 04:57 BST (UK) »

Hi Karen,

Just wondering a couple of things: 1st, could she simply decided not to be part of the 1901 census? I know some people do that.

And, did she come to Canada with a family member or friend and/or was she "sponsored" by one?

Also wondering if there would be civic  (tax, property, etc) and/or church records (membership, etc) in Ingersol that would place her (and possibly husband) there in 1901?

I looked for info too Karen but came up dry - nothing that hasn't already been memtioned by the others. Anyway, perhaps an RCer in the Ingersol area can scrounge around town hall and the local churches for you :-)

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Re: 1901 Census Help Please
« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 23 April 08 05:09 BST (UK) »

Here are some links for directories. Not sure if any can help, but worth a try.

http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=Directories%20Ontario

http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=Directories%20Ont

http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/dir.shtml

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Re: 1901 Census Help Please
« Reply #34 on: Wednesday 23 April 08 14:27 BST (UK) »

Good Morning everyone!!

Janice thanks for that information, I have emailed a lady on the Ontario Cemetery Resources to see if she can find Benjamin buried in Fenelon Falls.

JJ, that Wm and Ann Ellis looks promising I think?  I wish I could find her on the 1851 or even a marriage for them. 

Fenelon Falls isn't that big a town, and it's only about an hour and half from me, I'm thinking road trip  Grin

JDC you could be right, would be my luck that they weren't on it.

Hmm, I've got an 8 year old who couldn't decide what shoes to wear to school today and has now missed the bus, so now I've got to drive her  Roll Eyes

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Re: 1901 Census Help Please
« Reply #35 on: Wednesday 23 April 08 15:26 BST (UK) »

Yikes, a shoe fanatic at eight?... Grin  You are in for it, aren't you?

I know you know this but posting  for the ages as she isn't on the 1881, and this couple also awol on 1901... Married Feb. 10 1880
Archibald WILSON age 27 - physician, Manvers, Fenelon Falls
parents Archibald WILSON and Susanna SUTTON
Mary Eliza BOWMAN age 24 - Hope, Fenelon Falls
Benjamin BOWMAN & Sophia ELLIS
Witnesses are sister Jane & husband John Maynard...who are on the 1901


Do you have the particulars for the other son William?
This is the only feasible one on the 1901 for him as children born post 1881
http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census/ViewFrame.jsp?id=71405&highlight=4
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Re: 1901 Census Help Please
« Reply #36 on: Thursday 24 April 08 01:42 BST (UK) »

A little off topic, but you mentioned Benjamin's family were from Dundas County.

Picturesque Dundas
http://www.ourroots.ca/e/toc.aspx?id=2905

The history of the town of Dundas. Part 1
http://www.ourroots.ca/e/page.aspx?id=3608085

Stormont, Dundas and Glengarry
http://www.ourroots.ca/e/page.aspx?id=920084

The story of Dundas : being a history of the county of Dundas from 1784 to 1904
http://www.ourroots.ca/e/toc.aspx?id=2724

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Re: 1901 Census Help Please
« Reply #37 on: Thursday 24 April 08 01:56 BST (UK) »

I think this book should be a must find for you. It looks like it's available through interlibrary loan.

The Canadian Album: Men of Canada : Or, Success by Example, in Religion
... By William Cochrane, John Castell Hopkins, W. J. Hunter
Page 118
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He then located in Fenelon Falls, and began to practice his profession, and has
now (1892) a ... eldest daughter of Benjamin Bowman, Esq., of Fenelon Falls. ...

Amicus
http://amicus.collectionscanada.ca/aaweb-bin/aamain/itemdisp?sessionKey=999999999_142&itm=000005350452



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Re: 1901 Census Help Please
« Reply #38 on: Thursday 24 April 08 02:14 BST (UK) »

Wow Janice, thanks!!  How did you find that part that reads.....eldest daughter of Benjamin Bowman?  I clicked on the link, but just got the title?

JJ, I have no information whatsoever on the William Bowman  Sad

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Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
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Etheridge - Glouchester

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« Reply #39 on: Thursday 24 April 08 02:22 BST (UK) »

Just heard back from the lady about the cemeteries in Fenelon Falls, she can find nothing of Benjamin there  Sad  but, she did send me the 1891 census for...

Archibald Wilson, Doctor, age 37
Mary, wife, age 33
Violet, age 10
Lillian, age 8
Archibald, age 6
George, age 4
Edward Haston, age 24, born England
John Bowman, age 20, born Ontario, harness maker

So....at least now I know my gr grandfather was living with his sister in Fenelon Falls in 1891  Grin

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Ball, Kempson & Franklin - Birmingham
Shorter - Surrey
Dyer - Devon
Dawkins - Co. Cork, Ireland
Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
Bowman & Ellis - England
Etheridge - Glouchester

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Re: 1901 Census Help Please
« Reply #40 on: Thursday 24 April 08 02:25 BST (UK) »

Hello Karen

Here is another birth for Benjamin and Sophia.

061215-71 Victoria County
Bowman not given b. 16 July 1871
Father Benjamin Bowman lumberer
Mother Sophia Ellis
Infirm-Dr Fitzgerald-Fenelon Falls

Looks like a stillbirth with no name given.

Another little bit of information about Findlay McDougall on the 1911 Census

b. 15 July 1851 Glasgow, Lanark, Scot

Father John McDougall

Mother Sarah Moffat

From ScotsOrigins

Anyone run accross a marriage for Benjamin and Sophia yet ?

Trying to put together a time line.

Benjamin could have married Sophia about 1858 0r 59 . According to 1881 Census for Dundas County,Ont,

Morrisburg oldest child  William  born  c 1859,Maud b 1864 and John b. 1871

I think marriage registrations started in 1867 ; could check Parish records.

When did Benjamin die? Anyone  find a death.


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Re: 1901 Census Help Please
« Reply #41 on: Thursday 24 April 08 02:34 BST (UK) »

HI Lilybell,

I believe that is the birth of my gr grandfather, John Wm. Bowman, they just hadn't figured out his name yet  Smiley

Thanks for the info on Findlay McDougall.

No marriage for Sophia and Benjamin  Sad 

No death date for Benjamin  Sad

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Dyer - Devon
Dawkins - Co. Cork, Ireland
Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
Bowman & Ellis - England
Etheridge - Glouchester

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Re: 1901 Census Help Please
« Reply #42 on: Thursday 24 April 08 03:09 BST (UK) »

I found the book on Google Books, but there was no preview, just that quote.

http://books.google.ca/books?lr=&q=Benjamin+Bowman+Fenelon

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« Reply #43 on: Thursday 24 April 08 03:20 BST (UK) »

Not sure if all copies of the book are the same, but I found the 1896 version online.

http://www.archive.org/details/canadianalbum01cochuoft
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« Reply #44 on: Thursday 24 April 08 03:45 BST (UK) »

It looks like it will only be the 1891 versiion. (Found a way to get a bit more information on the quote

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to Miss Minnie, eldest daughter of Benjamin Bowman, Esq., of Fenelon Falls

Does that name sound familiar, and could she have been married to a doctor or lawyer etc.?

Here it is on Our Roots, but I still can't find the quote.

http://www.ourroots.ca/e/toc.aspx?id=2258
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