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Re: Josiah PRATER 1823-1855 Crantock
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 24 April 08 13:20 BST (UK) »

Second wife Catherine - not Elizabeth

Nathaniel 19 11 1815 not 1811 = Susan HENWOOD Jun 1847 9 81

Here is another marriage

John PRATER otp Bachelor = Fanny NANCARROW otp spinster 1 Jan 1842 Newlyn East both signed witnesses Harriet Anna Wood and Henry stephens - Mar 1842 St Col 9 91

Banns read between John PRATER otp Bachelor and Fanny NANCARROW otp Spinster 21, 28 Nov and 5 Dec 1842

Presuming it is this John as he is in Census with a wife Frances born Newlyn

Joseph was in SA by 1852. I do not see him in 1851. He had at least 2 children with him when he arrived. I don't see the baptisms in Cubert or Colan. Dau def born St Col district , son William Mark (From SA Records) - unsure as none reg with a middle name.

Kris  Cheesy

But where is our Maniac - We have well and truly got sidetracked here. He does not appear in the census - we seem have accounted for both 15 year olds in 1841 - One went to Middlesex the other Australia. In 1851 only the one in middlesex. This poor chap is not even showing up by initials Cry
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Re: Josiah PRATER 1823-1855 Crantock
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 24 April 08 14:24 BST (UK) »

What exactly, was a maniac, in those days ?

OH., says, someone like me, ... so would that be someone, in their own little world ?  Smiley

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Re: Josiah PRATER 1823-1855 Crantock
« Reply #32 on: Thursday 24 April 08 15:03 BST (UK) »

In 1841, there is a Josiah Prater, married aged 25, in Perranzabuloe....
Piece: HO107/150/11 Place: Pydar -Cornwall Enumeration District: 24
Civil Parish: Perranzabuloe Ecclesiastical Parish: -
Folio: 104 Page: 6
Address: Hendra ....... who is he ?

Age is dodgey, given age of first child, but if we can eliminate this Josiah ......

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Re: Josiah PRATER 1823-1855 Crantock
« Reply #33 on: Thursday 24 April 08 15:40 BST (UK) »

Looking at Josiah Snr and his family, in 1841, at home with him, are the following children..
Christian
William
Elizabeth.

Missing are ...

Hannah ....  she is with amelia Johns, in Churchtown, Crantock ?   

Thomas .... he is with solomon Butson, churchtown, Crantock ?

Richard Jenkin ... working for Nicholls, St Col Minor ?

Andrew .... did he survive infancy ?

Josiah .... if we find Andrew are the 2 brothers together ?

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« Reply #34 on: Thursday 24 April 08 22:04 BST (UK) »

Hi junket,

I don't know who that older Josiah is - that family seem to disappear too but he is much too old to be the one we are after. I have no idea what would have someone classified as a maniac, which is why I am so curious. I note Joseph Yelland's burial lists him as of Lunatic Asylum Bodmin, this lists Josiah as of nowhere else, yet no sign of him in any census, just (a maniac) When I had the two 15 year olds I thought one must be him but realising one was apprenticed to a carpenter it does seem to fit with the Middlesex man although age is out.

Pity you are not in Cornwall to find out if he was in the asylum or if there was anything in the newspaper if he had just done something to be declared a maniac. Idiot, Imbecile etc but I have never come upon a maniac. I wondered if it may have been something like taking his own life - those people were deemed insane but would they be considered a maniac............Don't know about Andrew. I will look............Kris  Cheesy
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Re: Josiah PRATER 1823-1855 Crantock
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 24 April 08 22:35 BST (UK) »

 Smiley Morning Kris.

I too wish I was in Cornwall.
What I would like to do is win the lottery and pay someone to come to Truro and do the 'looking' for me, whilst I told them what I needed to know ........... Smiley.

Wouldn't it be nice, for him, if he were a mechanic, not a maniac.. lol. 

Goodnight. catch you tomorrow.

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« Reply #36 on: Friday 25 April 08 03:53 BST (UK) »

Morning junket,

I don't see him in 1841 but I have found that Andrew emigrated to Ohio where he married a local girl - Veronica WEYGANDT. 1850 he has 3 children oldest aged 3. He is at this time a collier. His brother Richard Jenkin is also a collier in the household. In 1870 he is a superintendant coal mine - a son born in 1851 Ohio was named Josiah. He ended up in Chatsworth Livingstone Illinios where was a farmer. 1900 census states he is 81 had been married 54 years had emigrated in 1842 and been in the US 58 years. His sister Christiana and her husband William Fiddock also appear to have emigrated later to Livingstone.

Alas a lot of work but I still don't see our poor maniac  Cry .........Kris  Cheesy
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Re: Josiah PRATER 1823-1855 Crantock
« Reply #37 on: Friday 25 April 08 07:01 BST (UK) »

 Smiley Wow Kris, you have been busy, thank you.

It makes one wonder more now about Josiah and where he's hiding.

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