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inchamore
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Can anyone help me find the birth of John Donovan in Manchester. The family lived in the Salford area, John married Amelia nee Evans, children were William H, John, Alfred, Joseph, Thomas, Maggie, Mary and Helen. John was a steeplejack per 1891 census and also 1901. There were many born circa 1848 but am trying to track him down, his fathers name was also John. Would be grateful for any info whatsoever. Thanks
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Donovan Salford Manchester
Hogan Dublin Childs Bolton/Llandudno
Mckeown co Down
Carvill co Down
Hornsby Whitby Yorks
Wilson Bolton lancs
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Pegasuss
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Inchamore.
This is a hard one (good job He was'nt a 'SMITH')  
Just in case You hav'nt already found it, You can view their 1881 Census on:
http://www.ancestry.co.uk/
were Johns occupation is given as 'Slater'
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Hertzberger, Highton, Walker, Eaton, Webster, Brown, Wright, Speed, Dodd, Holland, Melling, Murphy, Edwards, Bennett, Collins, Critchley, Duffy, Owens, Morgan & Humphreys
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emmsthheight
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Hi
All the Donovans that fit that I can see in 1861 seem to be born in Ireland, not Lancashire.
But how about RG9/ 3026?
John & Mary Donothan, 49 & 48?
Both silk weavers, both born Middleton with children John & Mary, 15 & 17, both factory hands born Middleton?
Best wishes
Emms
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emmsthheight
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1851
Indexed Donavin
John and Mary Donavin, 35 & 36? Silk weavers, born Liverpool and Middleton
Children, Thomas, Hannah, Martha, Mary, John, aged 15,13,9, 6, 5?
first two born Lieih?, last three born Middleton, at Lodge, (Back o'th Brow-previous ones are), Chadderton, Middleton
HO 107/2242
See what you think!
Good luck!
Emms
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bursy
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Hi, Inchamore
This is possibly Amelia
1851 Salford, Greengate Unfilmed
2 Cellar, Matthias Bldg.
EVANS
John Head M 34 J,yman Brick Setter Ireland, .....dary
Mary Ann Wife M 32 Flak Reeler Ireland, Ban....k.....
Charles Son 4 Salford
William Son 2 Salford
Amelia Dau ..M Salford
Still looking for John
Hope this helps
Regards, Dave
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bursy
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Hi Again,
Cannot find John in 1851
In the 1855 Directory there is only one John Donovan listed, a labourer, living at 31 Every St, Ancoats, this maybe the John the father. I have no access to the 1851 for Ancoats, but maybe somebody will see this and check on Ancestry.
Good Luck
Dave
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emmsthheight
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Hi Inchamore and Dave.
I did once have another look for this on 1851, but there were so many variation I didn't get there.
Could someone whd it on anything of mine.o knows the area tell me acouple of streets Every Street is near to, or even leads off? I can't find it on anything of m8ine.
Best wishes
Emms
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emmsthheight
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Hi Inchamore
I've been looking back over this. Is the marriage to Amelia a second marriage? Do you know the date of their marriage?
I looked at 1891, and Amelia is only 31 but the oldest child William is 22. There's also a five year gap before John - easily explained, but it made me look closer.
In fact she could barely have been John's mother.
[Entry on link above and search is:
John Donovan 43, and wife Amelia, 31,
William son 22, John son 17,
Alfred 15, Thomas 12,
Mary 3.
All born Lancashire, Salford.
Have they married between Thomas and Mary?
Best wishes
Emms
Modified: Ah, error, she was 31 in 1881, too! but the rest of the entry may be a bit off, too! I'm not deleating it. Someone will have seen it and say so!
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Marriage Found on LancshireBDM & FreeBDM:
Sept Qtr 1890
John DONOVAN Married Amelia CORRIGAN at Manchester Catherdral
Lanc'sBDM Ref: CATH/212/290
FreeBDM Ref: Manchester 8d 313
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emms
re:location of Every Street
Here is the description of the enumeration district in 1851
Boundary: North side of Brewery Street from St Stephens to Arlington Street, North side of Arlington Street from Brewery Street to Mount Street, South East side of Mount Street from Arlington Street to Hill Street, South side of Hill Street from Mount Street to St Stephens Street, West side of St Stephens Street from Hill Street to Brewery Street.
Including: Brewery Place, Brewery Yard, Thomas Street (part of), Barn Street, Rosamond Street (part of), Bibby Street, Shepherd Street, Lloyd Street, Marsden Street, Every Street, Coley Street, Back Mount Street.
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Byers (Salford & London) Stringfellow (Salford & Chorley) Holmes (Manchester & Birmingham) Goulding/Golden (Birmingham & Lincolnshire) Bassett (Manchester & Salford) Child (Lincolnshire) Belshaw (Salford) Hallsworth (Eccles & Salford) Vernon (Bury) Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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emmsthheight
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Hi Inchamore and Dave
Thank you for the extra info.
I've been trying to follow through the Every street entry. I've not found him so far, but Ancestry has stopped puttiing up images again.
I'll have another go some time.
Best wishes
Emms
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