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St Enoder Baptism Lookup, please
« on: Wednesday 23 April 08 12:39 BST (UK) »

I am back on my Buckthoughts after being sidetracked by the Praters.

I am looking for a Baptism for a Jane Bullock, please, possibly the daughter of Hugh Bullock.



In 1851,  William buckthought, is living in Fraddon. (   

Piece: HO107/1905 Place: Padstow -Cornwall Enumeration District: 4b

Civil Parish: St. Enoder Ecclesiastical Parish: -

Folio: 612 Page: 35 Schedule: 136

Address: Fraddon ).

Married to Jane aged 47, ( bc 1804 ), St Enoder.Working backwards, I find I have a William Buckthought, who married a Jane Chapple, in June Q 1843.

In 1841, William is in Fraddon again (

Piece: HO107/150/1 Place: Pydar -Cornwall Enumeration District: 6

Civil Parish: St. Enoder Ecclesiastical Parish: -

Folio: 12 Page: 17

Address: Fraddon  ).  Jane is 36, with widow, crossed out.

I found a Marriage for Jane Bullock, daughter of Hugh Bullock, to Richard Chappel, 5 10 1822, St Enoder.

Children, for this couple, on IGI St Enoder, Thomas 1823, Joseph 1824, Mary 1826, Richard 1829, Jane 1832, John 1835. ( which fits in with the 1841 details, but ages a bit out ).

Also a birth for a Jane Bullock, 22 8 1790, to Hugh  and Grace Bullock.

The dates, for Jane do not match those on the census and I was wondering if you have some information on these families, please ?

Thank you

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Re: St Enoder Baptism Lookup, please
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 23 April 08 13:35 BST (UK) »

Hi junket,

Banns read between William BUCKTHOUGHT and Jane CHAPPELL both otp 2, 9 and 16 Apr 1843 St Enoder

Baptisms to Richard and Jane Chapple St Enoder

Thomas CHAPLE 31 Jan 1823 father Lab of Fradden
Joseph CHAPELL 25 Dec 1824 father Miner of Fradden
Mary CHAPPLE 24 Sep 1826 father Miner of Fradden
Richard CHAPPLE 2 Aug 1829 father Husbandman of Fradden
Jane CHAPPELL 29 Apr 1832 father Miner of Fradden
John CHAPPELL 13 Sep 1835 father Miner of Fradden

I do not see a burial for Richard

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Re: St Enoder Baptism Lookup, please
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 23 April 08 14:14 BST (UK) »

This certainly tells you who she was

Richard CHAPPEL miner = Jane BULLOCK Spinster by Banns 5 Oct 1822 St Enoder Richard Signed, Jane signed with her mark witnesses Hugh Bullock father of the above and Wm Rickard

MMM it does look like she lied about her age doesn't it

22 Aug 1790 Jane dau of Hugh and Grace BULLOCK was baptised

Banns read between Hugh BULLOCK and Grace BULLOCK both otp May 18, 25 and June 1 1788 St Enoder

Hugh BULLOCK otp = Grace BULLOCK otp by banns 16 Jun 1788 St Enoder Hugh signed Grace signed with her mark witnesses Robert Bullock and Ann Pearce

Looks like second marriage though Widow not stated

Banns read between Hugh BULLOCK Miner otp and Ann STEPHENS Widow otp  7, 14 and 21 Jan 1797 St Enoder

Hugh BULLOCK otp Miner = Ann STEPHENS widow by Banns 30 Jan 1797 St Enoder Hugh signed Ann signed with her mark witnesses Richd Poole and William Cock

The signature is the same  Wink

Grace wife of Hugh BULLOCK was buried 25 May 1795 St Enoder

All I can say is she must have really put her age down. I see no death of one Jane or baptism of another. I also kept my eye out for Jenifer as they can be interchangeable but there seems to be only the one daughter Jane


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Re: St Enoder Baptism Lookup, please
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 23 April 08 14:42 BST (UK) »

 Smiley

Thanks Kris.

I couldn't find another Jane on the St Enoder pages.  I even e mailed one of the transcribers, who had transcribed lots of Bullocks, when I noticed the baptism date and her given ages on censuses.
She didn't have a Jane born around the given census dates, to a Hugh and I was sure I had seen dau of Hugh, hence my post.

I think Jane died, before 1864, when a William Buckthought married an Elizabeth Jane, St Columb District.

On BMD., 3 Jane Buckthoughts recorded as dying, St Columb District, but no ages given.

Thanks Kris.

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« Reply #4 on: Thursday 24 April 08 00:41 BST (UK) »

Hi junket

Jane BUCKTHOUGHT of Faddon was buried Jun 3 1862 aged 59 years

Banns were not read in St Enoder for William's second marriage

We do know she is Hugh's daughter by the marriage entry which was very handy indeed. There is no Jane or Jenifer baptised at the right time so either she dropped her age substantially and never looked back or the first Jane died and the second was not baptised.

I find it quite interesting that she had a child soon after marriage to William, yet no more. One would expect that if she was born 1790 this would have been nearing the end of her child bearing years, however if she was only early 30's one would expect her to be at her most fertile. Of course there may have been other factors preventing her from having further children but it did seem interesting to me.............Kris  Cheesy
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Re: St Enoder Baptism Lookup, please
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 24 April 08 08:22 BST (UK) »

 Smiley Thanks Kris.

Like you, I did wonder about the age difference and if she 'covered it up' maybe.
I don't thnik I found any siblings for Jane.  I was back on the St Enoder pages, looking for the parentss of Hugh and Grace, yesterday, and looking in case I had missed a Jane or Jennifer, at the same time, but got called away and then got sidetracked by my 'new cousin coutesy of you' who sent me an e mail re Mary Jane Prout.

I will go back and search again, today.  One thought is, could Hugh be interchangeable, with something else, as in Jane / Jennifer ?

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Re: St Enoder Baptism Lookup, please
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 24 April 08 08:40 BST (UK) »


I will go back and search again, today.  One thought is, could Hugh be interchangeable, with something else, as in Jane / Jennifer ?

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I wouldn't think so junket. Hugh always seems to be Hugh or Hew if there is a Welsh Connection. Jane had an older brother William 20 Feb 1789. Hugh and his second wife had a daughter Miriam 5 Mar 1801.........Kris  Cheesy
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Re: St Enoder Baptism Lookup, please
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 24 April 08 13:07 BST (UK) »

 Smiley  thanks Kris, I will come back to the Bullocks, later.

So much going on here and I have another post which I want to put up, not relating, to these families directly, but associated, in a way, back further alomg the line.

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