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Fairbrass
« on: Saturday 01 March 08 14:43 GMT (UK) » |
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During the course of my one-name study I have found Fairbrass who were born in South Africa including Edward Eldred Bruce Fairbrass. I am keen to connect these Fairbrass to my tree - parents Edward Fairbrass [I do not know which of the many Edwards he is!] and Rebeccca Dyer. I would appreciate any info on the Fairbrass name that occurs in South Africa to expand and link this line. Thanks in anticipation.
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Re: Fairbrass
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 01 March 08 19:43 GMT (UK) » |
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There are 33 references in Naairs - this may give you some spouses. check the notes at the head of this board of details on how to search.
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« Reply #2 on: Saturday 01 March 08 22:05 GMT (UK) » |
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Ruth Many thanks for your help. I certainly have a clearer picture of Fairbrass in South Africa now. Those details have thrown up a few more queries however, but a start nonetheless. If I can find the age of Edward on death it may help find the right one in the UK.
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Re: Fairbrass
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 01 March 08 23:45 GMT (UK) » |
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Hi,
Could this be the family travelling to South Africa?
Ship: s.s UMGENI?
Official Number: 0
Master's name: R LEWIS
Port of departure: London
Passenger destination port: Durban (Port Natal), South Africa
Mr Ed FAIRBRASS 45
Mrs Rebecca " 34
Mr Vernon " 9
Miss Freda " 4
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From the archives it shows that Edward died in 1944 and Rebecca nee Dyer in 1933. If you apply for the death notices - they are very cheap - for William Edward as well as Rebecca and Edward, you should find some marriage and parent details on the notices as well as children.
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From the passenger listing( 1898) it would appear that Edward was born c 1844. I think the marriage probably took place in Natal - I have asked a friend to do a lookup for any Fairbrass marriages.
There is a divorce in 1928 in Transvaal for Winnie and Fred Vernon which explains why there are 2 entries for women in the 1935 whos who!!
Unfortunately I do not have time to go through the passenger listings but if you go to genealogyworld.net trawl through the Natal passenger listings and see what you can find as Edward appeared to be Natal. If no luck, try the Cape passenger lists - remember these are by no means complete!!!!!!
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Hi Daisy, Yes indeed, that is the family. His son Frederick Vernon with his wife travelled on the Armadale Castle in 1934. The best fit Edward I have though was born 15 July 1860 so would have been 38 rather than 45. His father would be Frederick William Fairbrass a ship owner from Whitstable. That is what I am hoping to find out. Thanks for your help.
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Hi Ruth, I think you are right about the marriage c. 1887. On the birth certificate for Edward Eldred Bruce Fairbrass 14 December 1898 it states he was born Essenwood Road Durban. Many thanks for asking your friend to ret to find it. You say getting death notices are cheap but are they easy to obtain from the UK? John
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Yes they are - like a pound a page!!! Read the sticky at the top of the board about obtaining info from the archives - unfortunately you wont be able to get the William Edward one as it is the Cape archives and you have to deal with the Cape archives directly.
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Re: Fairbrass
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 04:41 GMT (UK) » |
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Now to complicate matters a little further..........
From the Natal Marriages database which is being transcribed here in Durban....
Charles Edward FAIRBRASS marrying Rebecca Ann DYER on 28 Dec 1888 in Durban.
Walter FAIRBRASS marrying Julia THOMAS on 4 Dec 1876 in Durban.
I am really busy at the moment but I have a film waiting for me at the Family history centre that I need to investigate. I will only get there in a months time when school has closed for the holidays. When I am there I can look up the place and witnesses for you.
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Re: Fairbrass
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 09:39 GMT (UK) » |
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Hi,
I've just realised that I didn't put the date on the passenger list  the date of departure was 25 August 1898.
Thanks Ruth for dating it 
but I make it that he should have been born c.1853...not that I can find him 
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Re: Fairbrass
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 10:48 GMT (UK) » |
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Wow Ruth, rather than complicate I think you have solved the problem. Edward Fairbrass son of Frederick William Fairbrass & Sophia Cannon born 15 July 1860 Westgate without Canterbury Kent UK for some unexplained reason [maybe baptised but not yet found] was called Charles on the 1861 and 1871 census. He has not been located on the 1881 or 1891 census but as an Insurance Manager could well have been travelling at the time, possibly abroad.
Intriguingly he had a brother Walter Fairbrass born 7 September 1854 Canterbury Kent UK not found after 1861 census until a death 9 May 1890 buried in unconsecrated ground at Herne Bay Cemetery aged 35. I had assumed he had died without marrying having found no marriage or evidence of a spouse. However he could have married aged 22 and she may have died, separated....there is no Julia death [just checked] recorded in the UK.
So Ruth I would be grateful for your lookups and can be patient - what's a month after having waited years to solve this puzzle. Many many thanks, John
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Re: Fairbrass
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 22 April 08 11:49 BST (UK) » |
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I would like to thank everybody who offered help as having obtained some documents I have identified Edward Fairbrass. If anybody finds any mention of the name anywhere I would always be pleased to receive it. Thanks again, John
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