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MonicaLesl
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Re: McBride
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 26 April 08 21:19 BST (UK) » |
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Hume
I can't get a handle on Hannah McBride as yet. There are a couple of Hannah (and variants) McBrides who are servants in Ayrshire in both 1871/81. I wondered if this was also why John was boarding if mother Hannah was a living in domestic servant somewhere in Ayrshire.
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Re: McBride
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 26 April 08 21:39 BST (UK) » |
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Hume
I can't see Evan (I think it is probably meant to be EWAN) Dillon and Hannah in the 1871 census index  Hannah was 19 at the time of the marriage in April and John Spiers McBride in March, soooo always a possibility.....
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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« Reply #17 on: Saturday 26 April 08 21:53 BST (UK) » |
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 Guess who one of the witnesses were to the wedding of Ev/wan Dillon and Hannah McBride's marriage.........JOHN SPIERS 
Now was John SPIERS McBride called after him as the father or a friend/relative - I couldn't possibly figure that one out  If he was the father of Hannah's child, he surely wouldn't be a witness at her marriage a month after son was born surely....
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Re: McBride
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 26 April 08 22:00 BST (UK) » |
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Confusing! However, I think he might have been Hannah's brother-in-law? There's this marriage:
John Spiers to Mary McBride, mar. 12th March 1866 in Ayr
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MonicaLesl
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« Reply #19 on: Saturday 26 April 08 22:08 BST (UK) » |
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I'd just got there Hume - Phew!
We do have the right Hannah McBride, Hume. John's birth address and Hannah's marriage address a month later match  An aunt, Mary McBride or Spiers reported John's birth.
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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« Reply #20 on: Saturday 26 April 08 22:15 BST (UK) » |
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Possible entry for the Spiers in 1871:
John Spiers 28, labourer, b. Ireland
Mary Spiers 26, b. Ireland
Hannah Spiers 4, b. Galston, Ayrshire
Joseph Spiers 2, b. Galston, Ayrshire
John Spiers 2mo, b. Ayr
Address: Cross St, St Quivox, Ayrshire
Hannah's parents were called John and Hannah
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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« Reply #21 on: Saturday 26 April 08 22:50 BST (UK) » |
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Hannah McBride and family were already in Ayrshire by the 1861 census:
Hannah McBride 60, washerwoman, b. Ireland
John McBride 29, labourer at coal pit
Sarrah McBride 20, Cotton Sewer, b. Ireland
Mary McBride 18, Cotton Sewer, b. Ireland
Hannah McBride 13, Cotton Sewer, b. Ireland
Address: 245 High St, Ayr
Mother looks to have died between the census and the time of daughter Hannah's marriage in 1870.
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Re: McBride
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 26 April 08 22:52 BST (UK) » |
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Laura
I think it is time for me to stop 
You need to go through the detail and create a tree of some form to help you sort out who is who and then be able to take your research back (will be difficult because of the Irish lines but we are a good way back from this morning) and forward with what you now know.
Regards.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Re: McBride
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 26 April 08 22:59 BST (UK) » |
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Hi Laura and Monica,
As Monica says, you have a lot of information here to work through. The best thing to do is to start making a tree and adding the names and dates as you find them.
I don't want to overload the thread with too much information!, but on the National Archives of Scotland website, there is a divorce record of James Furey (poor) and Sarah McBride in 1935. She must have re-married to John McGhee after this year and before her death in 1940.
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MonicaLesl
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« Reply #24 on: Saturday 26 April 08 23:09 BST (UK) » |
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Well that answers that one - I wondered why I couldn't see a death for James Furey. It also now makes sense of the wording on Sarah's DC relating to previous husbands where it state "married for some time" to James Furey, I thought it odd, not now.
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Re: McBride
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 26 April 08 23:45 BST (UK) » |
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Oh my word,
I've just read all your posts, thank you soooooo much!! i'm really excited now and will have a proper read through tomorrow!!!
I can't believe what you've managed to find out today that is absolutely fantastic.
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Re: McBride
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 27 April 08 11:18 BST (UK) » |
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Laura
It would seem from the submitted IGI entries, that someone has already been researching this McPherson (and/or the Baxter line). This looks like a submitted entry for Sarah Baxter's birth:
Sarah Baxter Christening: 22 NOV 1835 Ballyeaston Presbyterian Church, , Antrim, Ireland
Parents:Robert Baxter and Sarah Robinson
And siblings, also all submitted entries:
5. Robert Baxter Christening: 25 NOV 1827 Ballynure, Antrim, Ireland
1. James Baxter Birth: 18 JUL 1830 Of, Ballyeaston, Antrim, Ireland
2. Henderson Baxter Christening: 14 APR 1833 Ballyeaston Presbyterian Church, , Antrim, Ireland
4. Jane Baxter Christening: 10 APR 1838 Ballyeaston Presbyterian Church, , Antrim, Ireland
6. Thomas Baxter Christening: 06 JUL 1851 Carnmoney, Antrim, Ireland
I would imagine that your great grandmother Sarah McBride was called after Louisa's mother.
Monica
Monica, how can you tell that someone else has been searching for this same record?
And as an addition to that, is there anyway of finding out who actually searched for that particular record? Just in case there is someone else who is also looking for the same family roots, which in turn could unturn a few more stones???
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« Reply #27 on: Sunday 27 April 08 15:33 BST (UK) » |
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HI Viper
When using IGI, from your search results, once you click on an individual entry you will see in a section further down the page 'Messages'. This will detail whether the entry you are looking at is an actual extract from official records (Old Parish Registers or Official Registers post 1855) or an entry submitted by a member of the LDS Church. No information included unfortunately as to who submitted the data: Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter.
Can't see anything of these McPherson entries in the Ancestral Files or Pedigree Resource Files. Will be impossible to determine who submitted the data from the entries as they stand.
Monica
Added: The point I was making earlier is that someone must have been researching the same line to have submitted the data that we are seeing.
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 07 May 08 22:46 BST (UK) » |
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Laura
It would seem from the submitted IGI entries, that someone has already been researching this McPherson (and/or the Baxter line). This looks like a submitted entry for Sarah Baxter's birth:
Sarah Baxter Christening: 22 NOV 1835 Ballyeaston Presbyterian Church, , Antrim, Ireland
Parents:Robert Baxter and Sarah Robinson
And siblings, also all submitted entries:
5. Robert Baxter Christening: 25 NOV 1827 Ballynure, Antrim, Ireland
1. James Baxter Birth: 18 JUL 1830 Of, Ballyeaston, Antrim, Ireland
2. Henderson Baxter Christening: 14 APR 1833 Ballyeaston Presbyterian Church, , Antrim, Ireland
4. Jane Baxter Christening: 10 APR 1838 Ballyeaston Presbyterian Church, , Antrim, Ireland
6. Thomas Baxter Christening: 06 JUL 1851 Carnmoney, Antrim, Ireland
I would imagine that your great grandmother Sarah McBride was called after Louisa's mother.
Monica
Monica, how can you tell that someone else has been searching for this same record? And as an addition to that, is there anyway of finding out who actually searched for that particular record? Just in case there is someone else who is also looking for the same family roots, which in turn could unturn a few more stones???
Hi
The above records would have come from Baptismal Records of a Church which would have been Microfilmed by the Public Records Office in Belfast and then copied by LDS.
The date of Christening could be the date of birth.
John
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Stewart, Stuart, Todd, Duncan, Waugh, in Ballyclare, Ballyeaston, Rashee, Cairncastle areas of Antrim, Northern Ireland (Ireland)
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« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 07 May 08 23:04 BST (UK) » |
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Hi John
The entries as shown are down as submitted entries by an LDS member, not actual extract by the LDS. Certainly their source is probably as you say. The dates are specific, so likely someone researching the family has obtained the data from an official source. LDS is always quite clear whether the entries are those that they themselves have taken from film or submitted by a member.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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