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Topic: RUSSIA: Relative born in Russia (Read 406 times)
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AMBLY
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As I understand it - it's probably the opposite - she was very possibly a "military" child (Army, or perhaps Naval) and was born in the country in which her British father was stationed at the time. It was common for Military men to have their wives and children along with them. This scenario makes Annie a "British Subject" by birthright (but born on foreign soil) and therefore she neither immigrated as a foreigner to England nor had to be Naturalised as English - when her Military father returned home, so simply did his wife and child(ren).
You say you have her on the 1901? Do you have them on the 1891?
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I'm just having a wee look now at an 1891 family in London - I think it's them - but the father is named as Robert (he is Scots)....they have a daughter 2 weeks old , named Marjorie......
This birth on FREEBMD - I bet is the daughter Births Jun 1891 - Edmonton - 31, Vol pg 342 Marjorie Joan CLARK
Hang on a tick!!
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Yes, I think it may be them!
1891: 15 Varlry Road, Tottenham, Middlesex Head: Robert CLARK 38. at Checkbook Manufactory , b Dumfries Wife: Annie CLARK 26, b Russia British Subject Dau: Marjorie CLARK 2 weeks, b London Nurse: ELiza CONNOR 42, b Buckley, North Wales RG12 / Piece: 1072 / Folio 121 / Page 25 (Tottenham fell into the Edmonton registration District)
Now in 1901, your Annie was aged 30, listed as wife with "husband absent" and in Wanstead, Essex with son John age 5 and Nancy age 1, and a number of servants...
Will see if I can spot Robert and Marjorie in 1901 - maybe he had a middle name of John.....
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That does look promising!  Perhaps the link to Russia was enterprise, not military....
There is at least one other child - and he is on the IGI as a submited record Christopher Alfred HODSON born 1852 Moscow, died 1921 Parents: James HODSON and Joan McGILL
He (Christopher) is married and in Farnsworth in 1881.
Hmm - if this is your Annie;s family - Joan is a relatively uncommon name, and often associated with Scotland in those times - seems a big coincidence that she married a man whose mother was also named Joan and possibly scottish - Stranger things have happened, though I guess!
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Have you got access to An**cest**ry? Someone has a tree on there, with those HODSON's on it. And it looks like yours. The tree has the daughter Annie married to Robert CLARK and their children as: Jack, Kitty, Margot, Nancye and Robin
It doesn't have any marrriage date, and no parent or any BMD details for Robert.
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Hi All,
just a thought,
I wonder if it was Prussia and not Russia, although appearing so often, it may well be correct.
The reason for this thought, is that there were a at least two topics on RootsChat about textile workers going to PRUSSIA, because the british textile industry was more advanced than Germany's.
(no time to look now but maybe a RootsChat search for textile schlesien or textile germany might find them. Topic: CASSIDY emigrated to Germany http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,280109.0.html Topic: Batley woollen workers, Germany 1880s http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,34233.0.html
But whether Russia or Prussia, the reason might be the same.
This thought came to me on seeing AMBLY's idea
Perhaps the link to Russia was enterprise, not military.... and familytreeresearch's item
Retired Cotton Spinner Living On Dividends & Interest just a thought Bob
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Searching for Coleman, Moore, Kallnung in London; Margulies, Remenyi in E. Europe; Ancestors of Hessie Stevenson-Coleman-Baxter (Ireland, 1861) and, of course, any other ancestors for my web-site. All Census Data included in this post is Crown Copyright (see: www.nationalarchives.gov.uk)
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Suspect that the family were in Russia (perhaps Moscow?) and that the father had some connection to linen/textile industry. Know of other British families who also lived in Russia connected to linen trade but left Russia between 1900 and 1917.
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I have found more infomation - part of it dated approx 1920 written I think by James' son Christopher Alfred
It says the HODSONs got their cotton manufacturing experiences at Townhead Mills in Rochdale. So did a John KONSHIN a rich Russian gentleman who became he first man to start cotton manufacturing in the Moscow district, and it was through him that the Hodsons went out to Russia.
There is extensive info. [
It is clearly your Nancye's line
I will PM you
Cheers AMBLY
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