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Re: Relative born in Russia
« Reply #15 on: Friday 25 April 08 11:56 BST (UK) »

Part of what I was able to find, said the James HODSON family, returned to England in 1870.
It also said, the eldest son (Christopher) Alfred, stayed behind in Russia at that time and was employed there by Robert ClARK, the (future) husband of Annie. Still unable to find any dates or bigraphy on Robert himself....

.......So, if that's right, since Annie was only abt 5 or 6 in 1870, one would think her husband must have been a good deal older than she. Yet the husband in the 1891 Census which appears to be them,  has Robert as only  12 years older than Annie; at that age,  he  would have been abt 18 in 1870 and  abt the same age or even younger than Christopher Alfred.....??

This is the HODSON's in 1870:

5 Tabot Street, North Meols, Lancashire
Head: James HODSON 42, Annuitant, b Rochdale Lancs
Wife: Johanna HODSON 40, b Glasgow Scotland
Children: All born:  Russia  - British Subjects
Dau: Victoria 15,
Dau: Laura 13,
Son: James E 11, Scholar,
Dau: Annie 6,
Son: Frederick R 3,
Servant: Alice SUMMER (or SUMNER) 24, General Domestic Servant,  b Southport Lancs
RG10 /  Piece: 3875 /  Folio: 16 /  pg25

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Re: RUSSIA: Relative born in Russia
« Reply #16 on: Friday 25 April 08 18:07 BST (UK) »

Hello

Maybe the Robert Clark that Christopher Alfred ... worked for was a senior whom had a son Robert that she married.

There is this Robert born Dumfries with father Robert, age a little off,  but  could be a possibility with senario above:

Scotland 1861 Census, CSSCT1861_143, Reg #: 821, Reg Dist: Dumfries, Civil Parish: Dumfries, St. Michael
Household no. 64
Address: Flosh
Robert son born about 1851 Dumfries  scholar
Father: Robert 48 born Dumfries labourer
Mother: Hannah 48 born Wigton, England
Siblings: Janet 29, Ellen 17, William 12, John 8
Also in household are grandchildren:  Jean McGowan 10, Hannah Milbourne 2, John Milbourne 3 months, Janet Mitchell 5, Joseph Robson, David Smith 2

Anyway just a thought.

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Re: RUSSIA: Relative born in Russia
« Reply #17 on: Friday 25 April 08 18:33 BST (UK) »

Wow! Shocked

I am completely overwhelmed by the help I am getting on this!

I am still trying to get my head around it all...

With a huge amount of help from Ambly - I've found links on Annie's side back to the late 1600's - incredible!

Robert still seems somewhat elusive...
Linda - this is excellent info from the Scotland census, both the date and the location seem to align.  Were there many Robert Clark's born in/around Dumfries in the early 1850's?  I'd like to think this was him, but with such a common name, I am careful not to jump to conclusions! Smiley

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Re: RUSSIA: Relative born in Russia
« Reply #18 on: Friday 25 April 08 18:38 BST (UK) »

Oh and another thought re: Robert Clark...

My family records do have his name as John (...haven't managed to make the connection as to why Undecided) as it seems fairly clear that his name was Robert...

Also, my records do state that his father was a Presbytarian minister in Scotland at some point, whereas this census record has Labourer.

...perhaps there could have been more than one Robert Clark born in Dumfries in the early 1850's??
...perhaps he changed occupation??
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Re: RUSSIA: Relative born in Russia
« Reply #19 on: Friday 25 April 08 22:32 BST (UK) »

Hi all

I agree, the scenario could well be that, Linda  Grin It seems the family were deeply involved in all manner of Russian business. 

But pondering on Annie's huband, I now think the Robert for whom Alfred worked was very possibly  his Uncle Robert McGILL.....Joan/Joanna McGILL (Annie's mother) apparently had 2 brothers also out in Russia at the same time and they all worked together in varying capacities.

In any case - the marriage of Annie and Robert is on FREEBMD - so that may eventually sort out his age and his parents:
Jun  Qtr 1890   - Ormskirk RD - 8b - 1130
Robert CLARK and Annie HODSON (on the same page)

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