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Marriage Record George and Suzell Hubbard
« on: Friday 25 April 08 12:08 BST (UK) »

Would SKP be able to find marriage record for George Hubbard and Suzell ??
I have details of couple 1871 census.

Mill Hill Upchurch Kent

RG10/984/Folio 127/Page 15

George Hubbard Head 48 Waterman bn Upchurch ?
Suzell Wife 48 bn London
Jane dau 18
George son  11
Alfred son 8
William son 6
Albert son 4    All children born Upchurch.

George may have been born Newington, Suzell was born Walworth London.

Have no details of previous census records.

Maybe the couple married in London where Suzell was born, would appreciate any help.

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Re: Marriage Record George and Suzell Hubbard
« Reply #1 on: Friday 25 April 08 12:28 BST (UK) »

Hi Victoria

There's no marriage for a George Hubbard & Suzell in Upchurch, so they probably were married in London.

There's no Baptism for a George Hubbard in Upchurch, I'll have a look at Newington.

I do have the Baptisms for the children of George & Suzell.
Would you like the details?

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Re: Marriage Record George and Suzell Hubbard
« Reply #2 on: Friday 25 April 08 12:30 BST (UK) »

Thanks Betty,

Yes I would like to have record of their children.

Thank You.
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Re: Marriage Record George and Suzell Hubbard
« Reply #3 on: Friday 25 April 08 12:49 BST (UK) »

There are HUBBARDs in Newington, but no Baptism for a George, the only one for abt 1823 is a John.


Baptisms in Upchurch for Hubbard

22nd Nov 1857 Ann Elizabeth  d of George & Suzell  Note: Bargeman
22nd Nov 1857  Louise Caroline  d of George & Suzell  Note:Bargeman
25th May 1862  Alfred Charles  s of George & Suzell  Note: Labourer
12th Jun 1864  James William  s of George & Suzell  Note: Bargeman
17th Feb 1867  Arthur Albert  s of George & Suzell  Note: Bargeman

There's no note to say the first two were twins, so possibly the parents just decided to have them baptised together.

I see there's a George age 11 on the 1871 census.
This might be him, perhaps a mistake with the mother's name?

19th Feb 1860  George Jordan  s of George & Susan  Note: Bargeman

Nothing for a Jane Hubbard.


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Re: Marriage Record George and Suzell Hubbard
« Reply #4 on: Friday 25 April 08 12:55 BST (UK) »

Thanks Betty,

The George on 1871 census is son of George and Suzell.

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Re: Marriage Record George and Suzell Hubbard
« Reply #5 on: Friday 25 April 08 12:58 BST (UK) »

As Suzell is such an unusual name, this could be another of their children, although there's no corresponding baptism.

Burial Upchurch

Aug 20th 1859 Suszell HUBBARD 8y 8m


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Re: Marriage Record George and Suzell Hubbard
« Reply #6 on: Friday 25 April 08 13:14 BST (UK) »

Marriages Sep 1849 
HUBBARD    George         Newington    4   405    

MORRIS    Suszell         Newington    4   405   

 
Addition

IGI Individual Record 
SUSZELL MORRIS    
   Birth:     16 NOV 1826      
   Christening:     17 DEC 1826      Saint Mary, Newington, Surrey
     Father:     JAMES MORRIS    Family
     Mother:     JANE    
   

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Re: Marriage Record George and Suzell Hubbard
« Reply #7 on: Friday 25 April 08 13:42 BST (UK) »

Thank You so much Betty and Galium,
Grin Grin Grin
It looks as though Suszell was born London and Christened Newington.

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Re: Marriage Record George and Suzell Hubbard
« Reply #8 on: Friday 25 April 08 19:58 BST (UK) »

This is the birth and death of the child Suszell Hubbard, she was probably their eldest child.

Q4  1850  Camberwell  Vol 4 page 80


Q3  1859  Milton, Kent   2a   416

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Re: Marriage Record George and Suzell Hubbard
« Reply #9 on: Friday 25 April 08 20:13 BST (UK) »

Hi Victoria

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It looks as though Suszell was born London and Christened Newington

The Newington where Suzell was baptised and married is Newington (Walworth) in the Southwark area of Surrey.  Although it was Surrey, it was incorporated into London in 1889 and quite a different place to the Newington in Kent.  Sorry if you were already clear on this but just thought I'd mention it in case there was any confusion.

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Re: Marriage Record George and Suzell Hubbard
« Reply #10 on: Friday 25 April 08 22:02 BST (UK) »

Hello Victoria,
                        1881 Census finds George Hubbard, 52 as Captain of Barge and His son James William 16 as Mate on board  theBarge "Honest Boy" No 67046 Berthed in the Surrey Canal Basin at Camberwell.
  Interestingly the enumerator has logged a note " possibly father and son" he obviously didn't think to ask and assumed when he transcribed his notes later.
    Honest Boy and Honest Girl were both owned by Charles Eltham ,Brickmaker of Otterham, Upchurch.
     According to Frank Wilmotts Archives on Thames Barges.
   67046 was Honest Girls Number but he must have got it wrong!
Suzell is at home in Muggeridge lane, Upchurch with sons George 21 also a bargeman and Arthur 14 a scholar.
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Re: Marriage Record George and Suzell Hubbard
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 26 April 08 08:27 BST (UK) »

Thanks Casalguidi, that clears the area information up for me.

Rog,

The Hubbard brothers ( quite a few of them ) were all bargees,
Would be interested in archives of Frank Wilmott re, Thames barges.

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Re: Marriage Record George and Suzell Hubbard
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 26 April 08 21:00 BST (UK) »

Hi Victoria,
                I am typing this at Upchurch so as you will guess i was aware of your family heritage from the village history.A good many of our local folk were Bargemen . (not bargees they crewed canal Barges not ocean going sailing barges.The statue in the centre of Sittingbourne highstreet commemorates them.
 The link you require for the barge archives is:-
http://www.thamesbarge.org.uk/barges/archives.html

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Re: Marriage Record George and Suzell Hubbard
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 27 April 08 10:26 BST (UK) »

Hi Rog,

Thank you very much for this information. James Hubbard was the uncle of my great grandmother Harriett Hubbard who was born in Rainham 1838. You mentioned a statue in the centre of Sittingbourne, is this on record anywhere. Most of James ( Jimmy Hubbards ) brothers captained his boats, including Harrietts` father Richard Hubbard.
Thanks again for your help.( are there anymore records in Upchurch re: the Hubbards ) I believe quite a few of them were buried in Upchurch graveyard. Just recently a friend sent me photos of Hubbard Cottages in Otterham also The Three Sisters pub which I believe was owned by James Hubbard ( I have a copy of his will )

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Re: Marriage Record George and Suzell Hubbard
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 27 April 08 17:20 BST (UK) »

I've located two Suzelle Hubbard's so far in my research, they are aunt & niece :-

1. Daughter of Thomas Hubbard and Amelia Morris born c 1854 in Camberwell, Surrey
2. Daughter of Thomas William James Hubbard and Rebeccas Gregory born 1884 in Rye, Sussex

Don't know if this helps at all!

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