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FRENCH
« on: Friday 25 April 08 14:17 BST (UK) »

Hi

Seeking assistance with census records and parents/siblings of:

James Henry French (later Captain)
b.abt 1805 Poole Dorset ENG.
d. before 1851 ? Lost at Sea out from Malta.

m. abt 1824 Jersey Channel Is.Elizabeth Matilda Abreo b. Abt 1813 Hampshire ENG.
dtr of Jopseph Pierre Abreo.

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Re: FRENCH
« Reply #1 on: Friday 25 April 08 14:41 BST (UK) »

There's this from the 1841 census which I found via the Dorset Online Parish Clerks site, the bit for Poole ... any use as a possible relative ?   I'll continue to look ...

62; Barbers Piles; John; FRENCH; 25; M; Mariner; Yes; F7p10
62; Barbers Piles; Ann; FRENCH; 25; F; Illegible; Yes; F9p13
62; Barbers Piles; Sarah; FRENCH; 11; F; ; Yes; F9p13


and this ..

84; Clements Alley; Mary; FRENCH; 30; F; FS; No; F10p16
84; Clements Alley; Ann; FRENCH; 1; F; ; No; F10p16


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Re: FRENCH
« Reply #2 on: Friday 25 April 08 14:48 BST (UK) »

Hi Velcro,

Are you sure of the dates for Elizabeth......bc 1813 & m  abt1824 ......married at 11 years old?

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Re: FRENCH
« Reply #3 on: Friday 25 April 08 14:58 BST (UK) »

Dear Nanny Jan

Great to have people on the ball! Grin
That is why I have asked for assistance the records dont seem correct to me ether , 11 yrs not correct. Birth or marriage dates incorrect. Many thanks, with help Im sure we can sort it out.

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Re: FRENCH
« Reply #4 on: Friday 25 April 08 15:15 BST (UK) »

Hi Velcro,


What records are you quoting with the dates?


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Re: FRENCH
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 26 April 08 03:21 BST (UK) »

Hi

James Henry French (later Captain)
b.abt 1805 Poole Dorset ENG.
d. before 1851 ? Lost at Sea out from Malta. m. abt 1824 Jersey Channel Is.Elizabeth Matilda Abreo b. Abt 1813 Hampshire ENG.

Looking for correct birth date of Elizabeth Abreo as she couldnt have been 11.O the mar

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Re: FRENCH
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 26 April 08 07:35 BST (UK) »

Hi

James Henry French (later Captain)
b.abt 1805 Poole Dorset ENG.
d. before 1851 ? Lost at Sea out from Malta. m. abt 1824 Jersey Channel Is.Elizabeth Matilda Abreo b. Abt 1813 Hampshire ENG.

Looking for correct birth date of Elizabeth Abreo as she couldnt have been 11.or the marriage date may be incorrect?

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Re: FRENCH
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 26 April 08 08:56 BST (UK) »




Where did you find the information regarding birth/marriage dates?   Family Bible, IGI, etc.  ?

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Re: FRENCH
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 26 April 08 09:51 BST (UK) »

Hi Nanny Jan

This info was passed down from a family member that started the research. How correct it is not sure that is why Im putting to great people like yourself to help me sort the family records.

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Re: FRENCH
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 26 April 08 11:53 BST (UK) »


It is possible that James left a Will; this might hold clues as to brothers/sisters.  If James was in the Royal Navy you might be able to find his records, which might have useful information regarding his family.

Are you aware of any children born to the couple?

Have you found James & Elizabeth on 1841 census?

Have you found the death of James?

Sorry it's all questions but there might be a clue somewhere!

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Re: FRENCH
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 26 April 08 13:55 BST (UK) »

This may be completely the wrong track .... but on the IGI I have found

Elizabeth Matilda DE LA ROCHE  b. 1813 Plymouth, d. 1854 St Helier.

It seems to imply she was married twice:

James Henry French in 1824 (i.e. she'd have been 11 !)
Pierre la Roche ... no date given

Its a right muddle ... Pierre de la Roche also seems to have been her father !


Then there's this:

James William French, b.  1824, d. 1896, Lamplough, Victoria.
His parents are given as:
Father:  James Henry FRENCH     
Mother:  Elizabeth Matilda DE LA ROCHE
His wife is given as:
Ann Spence, b.1825, Gibraltar, d.1901,  Brighton East, Victoria.
marriage: 23 Jun 1845, St. Helier , Jersey, Channel Islands.



Sort that lot out !   I wonder if your 'Abreo' surname is wrong ?   The rest of the details fit, in a way ...
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Re: FRENCH
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 26 April 08 14:32 BST (UK) »



Looks like "submitted" information...........handle with extreme care!


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Re: FRENCH
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 26 April 08 16:03 BST (UK) »

does this help at all?
living at 15 union street st helier jersey in 1851-
elizabeth cager 50yrs married school mistress
elizabeth matilda french 38yrs widow daughter needle worker born portsmouth
joseph quanto 22yrs unmarried son painter journeyman born jersey
eliza adelaide french 20yrs unmarried grandaughter bonnet maker born jersey
SOURCE INFO-H0107-2527
FOLIO-612
PAGE-37

THIS LOOKS LIKE A POSS FOR 1841-
charles street st heleir jersey
eliza french 30yrs seemstress born england
joseph 14yrs
eliza 12yrs
walter 7yrs
SOURCE INFO-H0107-1461
FOLIO-28
PAGE-54
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somerset- quick,baker,stephens,atyeo
durham- marshall,fairbairn
worcestershire- stephens
gloucestershire - stephens
middlesex - chesney
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Re: FRENCH
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 26 April 08 16:12 BST (UK) »

heres son james in 1841 with grandmother-
living in st helier
elizabeth cager 40yrs school mistress
george 20yrs painter
yves quanto 12yrs born france
james french 15yrs baker born england
SOURCE INFO-H0107-1461
FOLIO-15
PAGE-25
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« Reply #14 on: Saturday 26 April 08 17:25 BST (UK) »



Looks like "submitted" information...........handle with extreme care!


Nanny Jan


Yes, I know ... and a right muddle it is too ... but I suppose its possible to glean something from it ...
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London: Poplett
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