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French/Holgate/Hoggitt
« on: Friday 25 April 08 14:50 BST (UK) »
Hi

Seeking assistance with census, bmd records of the following couple please?

William French b. abt 1806 Messing Essex son of John and Lucy French nee Sutton
m. Mary Anne  Holgate/Hoggitt b. about 1811.

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Re: French/Holgate/Hoggitt
« Reply #1 on: Friday 25 April 08 15:00 BST (UK) »
hello, Velcro,

Could this be them ?

1841 census
HO107/331  bk 17  folio 11 pages 15 & 16
Duck End,  Finchingfield   Essex

William age 25  Ag Lab  born in counti Y
Mary  age 25   b  ditto
Emma  age 7   b  ditto
Joseph  age 5   b   ditto
Sarah  age 4  b  ditto
Ada age 3   b   ditto
Edward  age 2   b   ditto

Have just found this birth & bapt so the 1841 census may not be the right family, looking at the names of William's parents & two of the children's names.

William French
born  12th Feb  1817 
bapt  `13th Apr. 1817 Independent or Congrgational, Finchingfield, Essex
father   Joseph        mother Sarah

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Re: French/Holgate/Hoggitt
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 26 April 08 00:50 BST (UK) »
Hi Velcro and Meliora

This could be them

1841 Cencus-Messing
HO107/335/13/24/15

All b in County

FRENCH

Wm 35     Ag Lab
Mary 30
Wm 17
Edwd 14
John 10
Eliza 8
Mary 6
Gould 3
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Re: French/Holgate/Hoggitt
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 26 April 08 01:12 BST (UK) »
1851-Cencus - Messing
HO107/1783/22/37

FRENCH

William 52 head b Feering      Pauper Ag Lab
Mary A 48 wife b Gt Burstead
Mary A 17 dau b Tollsburry       Silk Drawer
Golding 13 son b Messing
David 9 son b         "
Eliza 23 dau Mar b  "
William 20 son Mar b Inworth      Ag Lab
Elizabeth 23 Dau in Law b Newport
Sophia 3 Grandau b Messing
Eliza 11m   " b             "
James 44 Brother Mar b     "     Pensioner

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Re: French/Holgate/Hoggitt
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 26 April 08 01:29 BST (UK) »
1861-Messing
RG9/1106/15 25
Near the Oak

I think Eliza has been crossed out as she is married and will have a different name but they have all been dittoed as French

FRENCH

William 63 head b Messing    Ag Lab
Mary A 57 wife b Gt Braxted
David 19 son b Messing              "
Eliza 30 dau Mar b Tollsbury
Sophia 13 Grandau b Messing     Silk Winder
Eliza 11        "                  "
Mar A 9         "                  "
James 7 Grandson            "
John E 3   "                       "
Martha 3m Grandau b       "
James 57 Brother Mar b          "        Chelsea Pensioner

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Re: French/Holgate/Hoggitt
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 26 April 08 01:46 BST (UK) »
Good morning to you both

Thank you for assisting me with this family.
Since further research I have found that the family that Jane forwarded from 1841 and 1851 census are my to claim.William & Mary of Messing.
Will try to find their wedding dates if someone doesnt already pass them on before I haver a look. Cool
Appreciate all this assistance. Many thanks.

Are there other census records/ death records of the family in interest,please?

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Re: French/Holgate/Hoggitt
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 26 April 08 01:52 BST (UK) »
Me again
How do I find out who the grand children belong to, their parents?

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Re: French/Holgate/Hoggitt
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 26 April 08 01:58 BST (UK) »
1871 Cencus-Messing
RG10/1694/18/27
The Oak

FRENCH

William 74 head b Feering      Ag Lab
Mary A 68 wife b Gt Braxted
David 25 son b Messing               "
James 64 Son in Law b "         Ag Lab "Pensioner"
Eliza 30 dau Mar b Tolleshunt Knights
James 16 Grandson b Messing      Ag Lab
John 12        "                 "
Martha 10 Grandau b     "
Charles W 2 Grandson b "
Eliza 20 Grandau b       "         Tailoress

Jane

I was just thinking the same myself about who they all belong to.
Have you had a look round the 1881 cencus to see if there are any clues  Huh
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Re: French/Holgate/Hoggitt
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 26 April 08 02:24 BST (UK) »
Hi

You will find William here on the 1881

RG10/1775/87/11

With a new wife

Jane

Scrub this post its not him  Huh Huh


Edited again-Im not sure about this post..the woman he is with is not Mary,,,She is hannah..but William seems to be the same one as he is living in the same house as he was in 1871,..im going to have to leave it for tonight coz im cream crackered and need my bed  Shocked Shocked
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Re: French/Holgate/Hoggitt
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 26 April 08 11:37 BST (UK) »
Dear Jane

Good night and have a well deserved sleep.

If he is still alive in the 1881 Census then another lady with him ? he is pretty old by now. But anything is possible if Mary  Ann passed away between 1871 and 1881.

Will lookup the 1881 Census and look for her death records if some one doesnt beat me to it.

Cheers
Debbie
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