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Reaybo M
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I am struggling to trace a branch of the family back any further than the early 1800's. I know there is more info out there, but I cannot trace it. Hopefully someone out there is waiting to reveal what is behind this brick wall of mine!!
I'm trying to trace the ancestors of Ann McKay. The trouble is her surname can be spelled many different ways : MacKay, McKay, Mackie, etc. She married Ralph Abercrombie Hastie (year unknown, but they had folowing children:
Jane Hastie c1844
Marion c 1845
Andrew c 1847
Archibald c1849
Anne Mackie Hastie c 1852 (died 1932 but havent got certificate)
Agnes c 1853
Margaret 1857
Flora McDonald Hastie 1859
John c 1860
Catherine 1862
Mary 1864
Andrew c 1865.
Most of these kids were born in Lanarkshire but I believe at least one early child was born in Edinburgh.
I think Ann died around 1883 but cannot be sure.
I have her parents down as Andrew McKay and Jean Marshall but cannot think where I got that info from. I have them jotted down, so maybe I saw it and guessed. Would love to confirm her parents.
Does anybody have acess to OPR's, maybe the record for Ralph and Ann's marriage will give some clue to her parents?
I'm completely stumped with this one!
Regards and best wishes!
Reaybo. 
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Durham: Reay, Dixon, Corkin.
Northumberland: Thompson, Turnbull, Peel, Reay, Stothard/Stoddart.
Gloucestershire: Wertheim (Jewish) , Howell, Lile/Lyle/Liles, Davis, Berrow.
Bristol: Westcott, Bayley.
Sufffolk: Fisher, Flatman, Baker, Smith.
Fife: Herd, Pearson, Moyes.
Lanarkshire: Russell, Millar, McDonald, O'Hara, McCartney, McGill/Magill.
Whitburn: Millar, Bryce.
Ireland: Owens and Fox (Tyrone), Hughes, Quinn, McCartney, O'Brien.
Glamorgan: Howell, Griffiths, Wertheim, Edwards.
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hume24
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Hi Reaybo,
John's birth shows on the IGI (9th September 1860 in Biggar) but he is listed as the son of Jane Marshall Hastie.  That's possibly where you got the names from?
It seems like Ann (Hastie, maiden name McKay) died in 1884, aged 62. Have you checked her death certificate (available on SP) for details?
hume24 
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MonicaLesl
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This is the family's 1861 entry:
Ralph Hastie 37, nail maker, b. Edinburgh
Ann Hastie 39, seamstress, b. Edinburgh
Jane Hastie 18, b. Edinburgh
Marion Hastie 16, b. Edinburgh
Andrew Hastie 14, b. Biggar
Archd Hastie 11, b. Biggar
Ann Hastie 9, b. Biggar
Agnes Hastie 6, b. Biggar
Margt Hastie 4, b. Biggar
Flora Hastie 1, b. Biggar
John Hastie 6 Mo, b. Biggar
Address: South Side Of Town Of Biggar, Biggar Lanarkshire
It would make sense that John baby was the son of daughter Jane, both show above, as you have found Hume. John's birth entry also help confirm the name Jane Marshall as a likely mother for Ann.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........
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Reaybo M
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Hi hume24, thanks for the info, and MonicaLeslie too. Does that mean John was Ann's brother???
I have not checked scotlandspeople...running low on credits. It doesnt help 75% of my family research is done in scotland! lol!
Thankyou Monica Leslie for the census info, i never had that inormation. Logging as you read!!
Reaybo
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Durham: Reay, Dixon, Corkin.
Northumberland: Thompson, Turnbull, Peel, Reay, Stothard/Stoddart.
Gloucestershire: Wertheim (Jewish) , Howell, Lile/Lyle/Liles, Davis, Berrow.
Bristol: Westcott, Bayley.
Sufffolk: Fisher, Flatman, Baker, Smith.
Fife: Herd, Pearson, Moyes.
Lanarkshire: Russell, Millar, McDonald, O'Hara, McCartney, McGill/Magill.
Whitburn: Millar, Bryce.
Ireland: Owens and Fox (Tyrone), Hughes, Quinn, McCartney, O'Brien.
Glamorgan: Howell, Griffiths, Wertheim, Edwards.
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MonicaLesl
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Ralph Hastie looks unmarried and living away from family on the 1841 census in Canongate. Can't be definite about an entry for Ann.
Reaybo, if you have a look at the birth cert. for any of the 1860s children (Catherine or Mary - the Andrew you have on your list also looks to likely be Jane daughter's child: ANDREW HASTIE Birth: 27 NOV 1866 Carnwath, Lanark) it should include the date and place of parents' marriage. This information was introduced into Scottish birth certs around this time.
There seems to be nothing showing for the family of Ralph and Ann in the OPRs.
Regards.
Monica
The John b. 1860 would be Ann's grandchild, born to her daughter Jane born c. 1844
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........
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Reaybo M
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Oh dear I cannot believe I got that muddled up. I get it now. I will see if I can top up credits on SP and have a look at those 1860 births
Thanks guys, was just a little confused there for a minute!
Reaybo
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Durham: Reay, Dixon, Corkin.
Northumberland: Thompson, Turnbull, Peel, Reay, Stothard/Stoddart.
Gloucestershire: Wertheim (Jewish) , Howell, Lile/Lyle/Liles, Davis, Berrow.
Bristol: Westcott, Bayley.
Sufffolk: Fisher, Flatman, Baker, Smith.
Fife: Herd, Pearson, Moyes.
Lanarkshire: Russell, Millar, McDonald, O'Hara, McCartney, McGill/Magill.
Whitburn: Millar, Bryce.
Ireland: Owens and Fox (Tyrone), Hughes, Quinn, McCartney, O'Brien.
Glamorgan: Howell, Griffiths, Wertheim, Edwards.
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