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(Bristol) 1841/1851 Census Lookup Requests Please For John Rossiter
« on: Saturday 26 April 08 15:53 BST (UK) »

Hi,

I am doing a one name study of the Rossiter family and am looking for information please about the parents, grandparents and siblings of John Rossiter who was baptised on March 3rd 1839 at St Philip & Jacob , Bristol.

Parents are believed to be Thomas Rossiter and his wife Mary ( maiden name unknown).

Any information would be greatly appreciated please. TIA.

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Re: (Bristol) 1841/1851 Census Lookup Requests Please For John Rossiter
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 26 April 08 17:22 BST (UK) »



Hello rcuser

Not much luck matching here ;  there is a John Rossiter b. 1839 Bristol on both censuses, but his parents are John and Mary.

On the 1841 there is a John b. 1834 with Thomas and Mary as the oldies in the family, but in 1851 that John's parents are John and Mary.

There doesn't appear to be a john b. 1839 with father Thomas.

Do you want the 1839 with father John ?
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Re: (Bristol) 1841/1851 Census Lookup Requests Please For John Rossiter
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 26 April 08 18:51 BST (UK) »

Hi Mum44,

Many thanks for that.

Please post what you have and I will check it against my database.

Thanks again for your help.

Best wishes

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Re: (Bristol) 1841/1851 Census Lookup Requests Please For John Rossiter
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 26 April 08 19:21 BST (UK) »



This is the 1839 John :

1841 : HO107 P. 377/9  Fol. 52  Pg. 18
Bell Hill, St George, Bristol
ROSSITER
John  25  Hay Jobber  N born county
Mary  25  Laundress  N born county
William 7  N born county
John  3  Born county

In same building, separate household
Jane Rossiter  60  Independent  N born county
Eliza   ~          14  F.S  N born county


1851:  HO107.  P. 1953  Fol. 492  Pg. 28
Nags Hill, St George, Bristol

ROSSITER
John  Head  M  40  Hay and Straw Dealer  B. Somt. North Petherton
Mary  Wife  M  40  Laundress  B. Somt.  Aults (not sure of that one)
William  Son  18  Apprentice Mutter (?)  B. Somt. North Petherton
John  Son  12  Scholar  B.  Bristol  St George
Joseph  Son  7    ~              ~          ~
Sarah  Dau  4                     ~             ~

The script is aweful, Aults and Mutter may not be OK

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Re: (Bristol) 1841/1851 Census Lookup Requests Please For John Rossiter
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 26 April 08 19:31 BST (UK) »

Hi Mum44,

Many thanks for that.

I have that family in my database already.

Is it possible to post John born 1834 please?

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Re: (Bristol) 1841/1851 Census Lookup Requests Please For John Rossiter
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 26 April 08 19:43 BST (UK) »


Well, there are two John's b. 1834 Bristol.

1841: HO107  P. 377  Fol. 37  Pg. 11
2 Mile Hill, St George

ROSSITER
John  35 (cant read occupaton)
Ann 30
Joseph 12
James 9
John  7
William 3

all born county

and : HO107.  P. 378  Fol. 11 Pg. 16
Wade Street, St Philip & St Jacob

ROSSITER
Thomas  45  Brushon J
Mary  45
William 15  Brushon App
Samuel  15  Lab
Henry 11
John 7
George 3

all born county

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Re: (Bristol) 1841/1851 Census Lookup Requests Please For John Rossiter
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 26 April 08 20:19 BST (UK) »

Hi Mum44

Many thanks for that.

It looks like I have both those in my database too.

It also looks like I'm not going to solve this one!! LOL!!

Thanks again for your help.

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Re: (Bristol) 1841/1851 Census Lookup Requests Please For John Rossiter
« Reply #7 on: Monday 28 April 08 11:13 BST (UK) »

how about this one in 1851?
living in cheltenham gloucestershire
james rossiter 29yrs tailor born bristol
mary.e 26yrs wife
emily.e 2yrs daughter
george 4 months son
john 17yrs unmarried brother born bristol
SOURCE INFO-H0107-1973
FOLIO-268
PAGE-7
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somerset- quick,baker,stephens,atyeo
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worcestershire- stephens
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Re: (Bristol) 1841/1851 Census Lookup Requests Please For John Rossiter
« Reply #8 on: Monday 28 April 08 11:17 BST (UK) »

this looks like it could be the boys in 1841-
living in st george gloucestershire
john rossiter 35yrs (looks like shoe maker)
ann 30yrs
joseph 12yrs
james 9yrs
john 7yrs
william 3yrs
SOURCE INFO-H0107-377
FOLIO-37
PAGE-11
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Re: (Bristol) 1841/1851 Census Lookup Requests Please For John Rossiter
« Reply #9 on: Monday 28 April 08 16:26 BST (UK) »

Hi alli,

Thanks for your post. I have both these families in my database.

Ironically I cannot find my original source of information for the John I posted.

However, I did find this: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/Census/household_record.asp?HOUSEHOLD_CODE=1881BR_5464667&HOUSEHOLD_SUB=1&frompage=99

I also found a family of children for Thomas & Mary with a John born 1834. I had hoped he was a late baptism but unfortunately the year of birth was the year of baptism.

I'll keep looking for my original John and see what else I can find.

Best wishes

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Re: (Bristol) 1841/1851 Census Lookup Requests Please For John Rossiter
« Reply #10 on: Monday 28 April 08 16:41 BST (UK) »


Hi  Rcuser

I did wonder yesterday when I was looking whether one of those born 1834 hadn't been baptised til 1839 - but decided against the suggestion because I thought your data base would have thrown that up already   Grin
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Re: (Bristol) 1841/1851 Census Lookup Requests Please For John Rossiter
« Reply #11 on: Monday 28 April 08 16:54 BST (UK) »

Hi Mum44,

Unfortunately, my database is just a basic gedcom file with no real search facilities other than an alphabetical list of names with dates of birth and/or death at the end.I have over 20,000 entries.

I've tried to make it easier by incorporating the birthplace as part of the name but it assumes that the data I have is accurate which is not always the case.

As for the late baptisms, I came across that a couple of years ago and was shocked that in some families there could be 8 or more years between birth and baptism dates.

Add to that different birth dates between censuses, duplicate entries, people with the same biographical data ( same birth date/place/parents names etc)  and the puzzle becomes a little harder.

So sadly, manual filtering only!! LOL!!

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Re: (Bristol) 1841/1851 Census Lookup Requests Please For John Rossiter
« Reply #12 on: Monday 28 April 08 17:02 BST (UK) »


Late baptisms  -  imagine the problem I had then, when my ancestor was born in 1752 and not baptised until 1796, with his youngest daughter!  Took me ages to figure that one out! 

And some families seemed to have a sort of batch-lot baptism every 5 years or so - all born since included in the next !
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« Reply #13 on: Monday 28 April 08 17:10 BST (UK) »

Hi Mum44,

Yes, I've met the batch lot method too.

Maybe, the cost of baptism was high and they got value for money by have a job lot!! Baptise one get one free..LOL!!

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