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fiona g
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Baird - Lochmaben
« on: Saturday 26 April 08 17:44 UTC (UK) »
Hi

anybody researching Baird family in Lochmaben. I have
Janet Graham Douglas Baird b1863 with parents as
James Baird and Janet Douglas also James's parents as
James Baird and Elizabeth/Isobel Boyes.
Fiona
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Re: Baird - Lochmaben
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 09 August 09 19:29 UTC (UK) »
Hello Fiona

I might have something - am not sure, I've got some kind of Baird-Douglas connection that I can't explain.  Huh

I have an ancestor named James Baird Grierson born circa 1884 in Lochmaben (according to Census 1891), a Driver with the Army Service Corps who died on Active Service in Egypt in October, 1919.

Having hammered my head against a brick wall in terms of birth records for him, I have discovered that his mother was a Janet Imrie, who on her marriage certificate (also in 1884) to an Alexander Grierson called herself Janet Imrie Douglas.

From the 1891 Census, James Baird is registered as the stepson of Alexander Grierson, however, on the Imrie Douglas/Grierson marriage certificate, Janet is listed as a Spinster. 

I am making the dangerous assumption that James Baird (Grierson) was born out of wedlock.
His mother (the Janet Imrie Douglas) was also born out of wedlock, to an Isabella Imrie and a Thomas Moffat.   

Don't know if it helps, but happy to share info.

JLJ
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fiona g
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Re: Baird - Lochmaben
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 11 August 09 13:09 UTC (UK) »
Hi  JLJ

Thanks for your reply and much as I would like to help with any info there is no connection to my Baird/Douglas. I hope you can solve your mystery.
Fiona
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Re: Baird - Lochmaben
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 11 August 09 22:13 UTC (UK) »
Fiona

Many thanks.

Have partly solved the conundrum.

The "Baird" comes from a Janet Baird; who was James Baird Moffat's Great Grandmother (born sometime around 1807), and living with her daughter, grand daughter and 2 great grandchildren  in Marjoriebanks in 1881.

James was the illegitimate son of Janet (Imrie) Baird Douglas - still no idea where the "Douglas" comes from  Huh.  Will have to dig a little deeper  Wink

JLJ
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Re: Baird - Lochmaben
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 12 August 09 01:25 UTC (UK) »
Hi JLJ
Janet Hunter Baird b 1807, sister to James Baird 1808, children of James Baird & Isabella Boyes.
James married to Janet Douglas
Child Janet Douglas Graham Baird b 1862, married to My 1st cousin a few times removed Joseph Steel Tweedie.
Cheers
peaches
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HODDOM: Scott, Cunningham, Calvert
LOCHMABEN/CAERLAVEROCK:Tweedie, LOCHMABEN:Learmont, Telfer, Pattie, Scott, Walker, Jamieson
KIRKCUDBRIGH:Beattie, Bryden, McLauchlen,      Douglas
DUMFRIES:Carruthers, Gibson, Bell
AYRSHIRE:Bryden, Murdoch
KIRKMAHOE:Corbet,
ORKNEY:Chalmers/Chambers, Tait,
MOFFAT:Halliday
DALBEATTIE:Fergusson,

SUSSEX: West,
TYNEMOUTH:Chambers/Chalmers, Liddell, Hallowell,
HULL/NORTHUMBERLAND:Wouldhave, Whatley, Arkell, Hallowell
fiona g
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Re: Baird - Lochmaben
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 12 August 09 20:11 UTC (UK) »
Hi JLJ & Peaches

after reading Peaches post I think we do have a connection Smiley. The only child I had for James Baird/Isabella Boyes was James b1808,didnt realise there was a Janet Hunter Baird b1807.
I will give you the info I have (which was kindly given to me by Peaches,way back)and you can make your own mind up about the Douglas bit.

James Baird babt1790 m Isabella Boyes 21st  May 1805,Lochmaben
children
Janet Hunter Baird b1807
James Baird b1808

James Baird b1808 m Janet Douglas 21 Jan 1856 Lochmaben,
this is James Bairds 2nd marriage
child
Janet Graham Douglas Baird b28th June 1862 Lochmaben.


Janet Douglas (James's wife)was b1821 Anwoth/Balmaghie,Kirkcudbright,parents James Douglas & Dorothy Cummin/MacKenzie.

Hope above helps with your mystery.

Fiona
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