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hazelmoore
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Dearing help please! UPDATE
« on: Sunday 27 April 08 15:40 BST (UK) »

Hello All!

I have a Dearing (first name) married to a brother (Thomas) of my Gt.Gt.Grandfather William Moore b.1812.  I have them on the 1861 Census living in St Luke, Finsbury.  Thomas and William were born in Coventry and Dearing in St Lukes.

I have been unable to find a Marriage for them or indeed a Birth (c1820 - too early!) or Death for her - I entered 'Dearing' on FreeBMD and there were only a handful of entries from 1837 to 1910 and most of those were male!

I have tried Ancestry and Family Research with similar results - does anyone have any ideas where I go from here?  I even tried Dearing on Google but most results are for the surname.

I would be extremely grateful for any ideas...!

Thanks, Hazel
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Re: Dearing help please!
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 27 April 08 16:11 BST (UK) »

Hi Hazel,

Have you seen the actual 1861 census image? It's very unclear so I'd say 'Dearing' is just as good a guess as anything else!  Undecided 
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Re: Dearing help please!
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 27 April 08 16:22 BST (UK) »

I agree with Tati - the image is awful!  I don't see her in 1871 either.

Have you managed to identify the birth of one of the children?  The cert would give the mother's name.

Kind regards, Arranroots  Wink
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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY, BOYLE (DUNDALK)
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Re: Dearing help please!
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 27 April 08 16:28 BST (UK) »

A possible birth for Sarah Moore  1856   JFM   St Luke, 1b  593

and for                  Thomas Moore   1860 JFM  st Luke,  1b 623

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Re: Dearing help please!
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 27 April 08 16:33 BST (UK) »

Hi Tati and Arranroots

Yes I do have the image and I do agree with you to a certain extent.  I must admit I have leant on the transcription - Dearing!!  Any other ideas about what it could be?!!  Yes they did have children, Sarah and Thomas and I do have their Reg.Nos. but they are not such close family that I had considered getting a Birth Cert.!!!  Looks like it may be the only way to find out what her name is!

Hazel

P.S. You're too fast for me!!  I have  Dec 1855 Moore  Sarah Elizabeth    St.Luke  1b 515 and the same as you for Thomas
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Re: Dearing help please!
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 27 April 08 17:04 BST (UK) »

I agree with Tati - the image is awful!  I don't see her in 1871 either.
I believe Thomas is a widower in 1871.

Have looked at deaths 1861-1871 in the St Luke and Holborn districts but couldn't see anything that looked remotely like it!  Tongue
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Re: Dearing help please!
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 27 April 08 17:17 BST (UK) »

Hi Tati

I think Thomas is in the 'Holborn Union' Workhouse in 1871, widower, even though the age is wrong.
I couldn't find a Moore Death that fitted Dearing either!  Sad

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Re: Dearing help please!
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 27 April 08 17:19 BST (UK) »



I've tried to find this family on the 1861 on FMP - can't find them at all

Think Thomas Junior is at an Indstrial School in 1871....
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Re: Dearing help please!
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 27 April 08 17:38 BST (UK) »

Agree about Thomas Jr.

There is a marriage of a Diana HARRISON which I have tried to make fit!

Marriage

Dec 1855 St Luke 1b 747

Cotton Hannah
Harrison Diana
Moore Thomas

Rowland Henry

Mentioning it here in case anyone else thinks it is likely?

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY, BOYLE (DUNDALK)
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Re: Dearing help please!
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 27 April 08 17:45 BST (UK) »

Hi Mum44

Is that the Mitcham school?  Pity there's no address even on Page 1.  I think his cousins were at the same place in 1881.

Going back to look at the image I can see Dearing in what's written where I can't see Diana...maybe Dearing was a nickname!!
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Re: Dearing help please!
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 27 April 08 18:16 BST (UK) »



Hi Arran - yes, I looked at Diana Harrison - only because it began with D and seemed to be at the right time!

There are also  Dearings on the 1851, but as Hazel said - males.

I like the nickname theory - although ....  what ?  I did wonder whether it was darling ?
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« Reply #11 on: Sunday 27 April 08 18:20 BST (UK) »



further to Diane Harrison - the only Diana Rowland I could see on the 1861 (other male Henry Rowland)  was married to Charles Rowland, and I coudn't see a Diana Moore.....

Probably only proves I can't see straight !
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Re: Dearing help please!
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 27 April 08 18:34 BST (UK) »

Can't find Sarah on 1871, but there are several Sarah Moore Deaths between 1861 & 71 around St Lukes, Clerkenwell and Bethnal Green so I reckon she may have passed on with her Mother - if we only knew what her Mother's name was really!!
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« Reply #13 on: Sunday 27 April 08 19:14 BST (UK) »

There's a Sarah MOOR who looks promising in 1871 - visiting Robert W PARSONS & family in St Luke's - again I can't prove any kind of link with your family though!

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY, BOYLE (DUNDALK)
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Re: Dearing help please!
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 27 April 08 19:50 BST (UK) »

Arran - thanks for that.  Unfortunately at the moment Ancestry images won't open for me - anyone else having trouble???  However, sounds a good possibility.  Smiley

Hazel
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