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hazelmoore
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Re: Dearing help please!
« Reply #30 on: Monday 28 April 08 14:25 BST (UK) »

Hi Jap

This would seem to imply that she was a widow when she married Thomas Moore in 1855.  In 1861 her son John Harrison is with the Jennings household as 'brother' - but it is not clear to who!

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Re: Dearing help please!
« Reply #31 on: Monday 28 April 08 14:27 BST (UK) »

Whoo-hoo JAP!!

That could well be the missing piece of the jigsaw, well done!

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HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
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Re: Dearing help please!
« Reply #32 on: Monday 28 April 08 15:44 BST (UK) »

Well, I found this Marriage:

Jun 1841
HARRISON Samuel
ROGERS Diana      St Martin   1   142

and there are plenty of Samuel Harrison Deaths including this one:

Sep 1843
HARRISON Samuel    Holborn   2   91

Looking quite promising isn't it?  Wink

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Re: Dearing help please!
« Reply #33 on: Monday 28 April 08 16:33 BST (UK) »

Well, well, well - see what I have found now!!  I'm still not sure where it takes me!!  Dearing was supposedly only 40 in 1861 and here 'she' is, 35 in 1841.......of course probably nearer 30, but still...!

Any comments/musings welcomed!  I wondered if she'd been married before - to a Rogers? - or are they her brothers (no sign of other Rogers' in the vicinity)

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Re: Dearing help please!
« Reply #34 on: Monday 28 April 08 19:27 BST (UK) »

Can't wait to see what she's called on Thomas Jnr's birth cert, hope you're going to send for it   Smiley

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Re: Dearing help please!
« Reply #35 on: Monday 28 April 08 21:58 BST (UK) »

Have sent for Thomas Jr.'s Birth Certificate - despatch date May 6th.
Watch this space!!!

Hazel   Grin
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Re: Dearing help please!
« Reply #36 on: Tuesday 29 April 08 02:56 BST (UK) »

...   In 1861 her son John Harrison is with the Jennings household as 'brother' - but it is not clear to who!

Hazel, what is the reference for this census entry please?

Incidentally, there are a couple of deaths which might be possible for "Dearing":
Dinah MOORE, death, Mar 1863, Stepney
Dinah MOORE, death, Dec 1864, Shoreditch.

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Re: Dearing help please!
« Reply #37 on: Tuesday 29 April 08 03:04 BST (UK) »

Here are some interesting entries from the IGI:

27 Apr 1841, St Martin in the Fields, Westminster, London
Samuel HARRISON married Diana ROGERS or WADLEY

Parents William ROGERS & Diana
Given the dates, these are probably/possibly two different sets of parents - but Richard ROGERS b 1836 certainly fits with Diana HARRISON in the 1841 ...
Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a George ...

St Mary-St Marylebone Road, Saint Marylebone, London
Elizabeth ROGERS b 18 Dec 1823, bap 14 Jan 1824

St Andrew, Holborn, London
William ROGERS b 29 Jun, bap 30 Aug 1826

All Souls, Saint Marylebone, London
John ROGERS, b 28 Mar, bap 12 May 1833
Richard ROGERS, b 2 Feb, bap 28 Feb 1836
 
JAP
PS (added later after thinking about it!): The IGI has a Diana WADLEY born 1799 in Middlesex but she would be too old for "Dearing" as,  in the 1861 (age given as 40), "Dearing" has a 5yo and a 1yo.  Perhaps we are following up some red herrings?
Perhaps Diana WADLEY, b 1799, married William ROGERS and had various children with him.  He died and Diana WADLEY/ROGERS married Samuel HARRISON.  Her age (rounded down to the nearest 5) of 35 in 1841 fits quite well - OK, it should be 40 but perhaps she said it was 39 and that would be rounded down to 35.
Perhaps the Diana HARRISON who married Thomas MOORE is a completely different Diana HARRISON.  Her age is given as 29 in 1851 and 40 in 1861; she has 5yo and a 1yo in 1861.
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Re: Dearing help please!
« Reply #38 on: Tuesday 29 April 08 11:24 BST (UK) »

Hi Jap

Wow, what a lot of 'ferretting' you've done! I have come to the conclusion that only Thomas' Birth will give us the answer, as Diana's ages are too different in the various Censuses to be logically the same person.  Can't wait for it to arrive now!!

Thanks for your input.
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Re: Dearing help please! UPDATE
« Reply #39 on: Monday 12 May 08 11:30 BST (UK) »

 CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL MY HELPERS!!!!!

I have just got Thomas's Birth Cert. - 8th Jan.1860. 
Mother: Dinah Moore formerly HARRISON!!!  (Special thanks to ArranRoots for suggesting that Marriage!)

I am now busy collating all the information you put up on here - thank you all once again.  I shall chase Dinah to her roots!  I wonder where the Dearing came from?!!

Cheers, Hazel

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Re: Dearing help please! UPDATE
« Reply #40 on: Monday 12 May 08 12:32 BST (UK) »

Hi Hazel,

Wow!

We'll be watching this space ...

JAP
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