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Croydon St John the Baptist - Marriage lookup ?
« on: Sunday 27 April 08 16:02 BST (UK) »

Hello - is there anyone who could look up a marriage in the 3rd qtr 1878,  (not 1898 as originally posted)  in Croydon St John?
I am informed that Thomas Edward Horseman married Jane Urquhart Kirkman there.
I would appreciate the relevant details of parents, occupations, residences and witnesses.

Thanks
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Re: Croydon St John the Baptist - Marriage lookup ?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 28 April 08 15:25 BST (UK) »

Hi Heathers,
I checked the full GRO index for this marriage and it's not there  Huh  Normally the information you require would be on the marriage certificate not the parish registers.  I'm not sure how or where you got the information from but perhaps you should double check the information   Undecided  If you could tell us how you arrived at this marriage perhaps we can help untangle this for you,

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Re: Croydon St John the Baptist - Marriage lookup ?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 28 April 08 19:47 BST (UK) »

Sorry - my fault - (an unfortunate finger slip)  - it was 3 Q 1878  RD Croydon  2a 301.  Sorry if I have wasted your time

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Re: Croydon St John the Baptist - Marriage lookup ?
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 29 April 08 09:41 BST (UK) »

 Grin Ahh, then I would suggest you order a copy as all that info will be on there.
Have you found them on the 1881/1891 & 1901 censuses?  That would at least give you his occupation & if they had an aged parent staying with them...wow  Wink

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Re: Croydon St John the Baptist - Marriage lookup ?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 11 June 08 19:28 BST (UK) »

There is a Thomas Edward Horseman married to Janie Urquhart Horseman on the 1891, both aged 35. He is Head Teacher Widcombe Boy's School.Living in the Bath area.

Thomas was born in Kent and Janie in Middlesex with 3 children born in Somerset
Eldest child is 8.

Janie Senior died in 1893. Thomas then married Louisa Sarah J Flowers and  2 of the  children are with her in 1901.

Thomas Edward died in 1895.

In 1901 one of the children is in a Teachers orphanage.

Is this your family and do you have this?

If you do have this what information do you now require that we can help you with without purchasing the first marriage cert?


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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
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Re: Croydon St John the Baptist - Marriage lookup ?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 11 June 08 19:44 BST (UK) »

Thomas Edward is at home with his parents, Thomas and Harriet on the 1871 census.

Would you like this?

He moves around a bit - he is a teacher married to Janie and living Wiltshire on the 1881. This may account for a marriage in Croydon.

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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi
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Re: Croydon St John the Baptist - Marriage lookup ?
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 14 June 08 17:04 BST (UK) »

Thanks for the two recent messages.  Your investigations tie in with my thoughts.  But I was unaware of the son being in the orphanage - so that was a great help. 
I would still appreciate it is anyone was to look up the marriage in Croydon St John - Parish Records.  Its nice to have the extras - as to where they were living, and who the witnesses were.

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Re: Croydon St John the Baptist - Marriage lookup ?
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 14 June 08 17:23 BST (UK) »

I'll try and check this out for you but can't promise when as I am a bit busy at the moment.

I'll keep a note of the names and if no-one else posts I'll let you know as soon as I can

I presume it is Croydon St John the Baptist?? - I ask this because there are 5 other possible churches in Croydon



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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi
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Re: Croydon St John the Baptist - Marriage lookup ?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 14 June 08 17:32 BST (UK) »

Hi

Some information on BIVRI

St John the Baptist, Croydon
7th August 1878
Thomas Edward Horseman.   Full age.   father Thomas Horseman
Jane Urquhart Kirkman.  Full age.  father Robert George Kirkman

family history library film no 994337

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Re: Croydon St John the Baptist - Marriage lookup ?
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 14 June 08 17:38 BST (UK) »

St John the Baptist it is then Wink
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi
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Re: Croydon St John the Baptist - Marriage lookup ?
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 15 June 08 07:28 BST (UK) »

Thanks for both replies - I now have a date - which will make any look ups easier.

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Re: Croydon St John the Baptist - Marriage lookup ?
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 15 June 08 14:10 BST (UK) »

Heathers - if you find this information before I post on here can you let me know and it will save a journey.

I should be able to go next Thurs evening

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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi
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Re: Croydon St John the Baptist - Marriage lookup ?
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 15 June 08 15:36 BST (UK) »

Hello

Its unlikely that I will find the information before you do - but please dont make a journey specifically for me.

Thanks

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« Reply #13 on: Thursday 19 June 08 21:16 BST (UK) »

St John the Baptist, Croydon Surrey
August 7th 1878

Thomas Edward Horseman
Bachelor of full age
Schoolmaster
Residence at time of marriage - Steeple Longford, Wiltshire
Father Thomas Horseman, Builder

Jane Urquhart Kirkman
Spinster of full age
Residence at time of marriage - Croydon
Father Robert George Kirkman, Manager to Merchant

Married by J Williams after Banns, Vicar of Holy Trinity, Wallington

Witnesses:  R Kirkman
                   Helen Kirkman Edith Horseman

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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi
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Re: Croydon St John the Baptist - Marriage lookup ?
« Reply #14 on: Friday 20 June 08 05:27 BST (UK) »

Many thanks for that information - looking at where they lived makes you wonder how they met !

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