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Cen 1851 Abingdon lookup please
« on: Sunday 27 April 08 22:39 BST (UK) »
I am hoping I may have found my elusive Fry's.

Could I get a check done please of Abingdon for a family of the name FRYER.

William/William Francis
Elizabeth/Betsey
Charlotte dau
William son.
And possibly another daughter?

I know they were in Abingdon for cen 1861 under the name FRY. But it has only just come to light that they might have been FRYER's at this earlier time.

Thanks in advance
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Re: Cen 1851 Abingdon lookup please
« Reply #1 on: Monday 28 April 08 00:03 BST (UK) »


Hi kiwigal

I think this is them :-

1851 Census England Berkshire Abingdon St Helen
HO107/1688/265/46
Bury Lane

FRYER
Elizabeth Head Marr 36 Slop? Maker Norfolk Langham
Ann Dau Unmarr 11 Slop? Maker Berks Abingdon
Charlotte Dau Unmarr 8 Berks Abingdon
William F Son Unmarr 1 3/4 Berks Abingdon

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Re: Cen 1851 Abingdon lookup please
« Reply #2 on: Monday 28 April 08 00:36 BST (UK) »
Thanks Karenlee.
Looks like them. Elizabeth doesn't seem to know where she was born, in cen 1861 she states she is from Wiltshire Roll Eyes.

Probably the slop maker, refers to the frock maker she was in 1861

Hubby keeps changing his name, william/william francis/ francis william. My brain is stating to feel a bit fried!

many thanks again
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Re: Cen 1851 Abingdon lookup please
« Reply #3 on: Monday 28 April 08 00:54 BST (UK) »
Hi  Smiley

as I grew up in Abingdon, I take an interest in the history of the town.

Apparently there were a lot of "Slop makers" there and it refers to work clothes makers. They sewed clothes used for work as opposed to fancy and fine dresses and suits.

Nothing sloppy about that  Grin
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« Reply #4 on: Monday 28 April 08 01:21 BST (UK) »
Now that's interesting. I wonder if that is where the term "sloppy dresser" come from?

Thanks for the info
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Re: Cen 1851 Abingdon lookup please
« Reply #5 on: Monday 28 April 08 11:26 BST (UK) »
Hi Kiwigal,

      From Abingdon St Helens parish registers under name of Fry

  Ann born 18 May 1840, Bap 18 Sep 1842
  Elizabeth born 31 Aug 1842, bap 18 Sep 1842
  William Francis born 24 Nov 1844, bap Jan 6 1845
  Charlotte born 18 Dec 1845, bap Jan 11 1846

    Parents William and Elizabeth, Williams occ bargeman, address Vicarage Lane and Bury Lane.

    Have to go to work for a while but will look again at marriages and burials when home

                Sue
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« Reply #6 on: Monday 28 April 08 12:00 BST (UK) »
Thanks Sue,
Really grateful of the help

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« Reply #7 on: Monday 28 April 08 13:47 BST (UK) »
Hi again,

        Only found one marriage at ST Michaels church Abingdon 20 July 1873

William Francis Fry, bach, occ baker, living in Ock St, father William Francis, occ lab.
Ann Wiblin, sp, living Ock St, father William, occ butcher
   Wits: John Wiblin and Martha Ann Cole.


           Hope this helps

               Sue

Added:  Not sure on this one unless its William born in 1855, sorry if im confusing you Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: Monday 28 April 08 14:06 BST (UK) »


     Kiwigal i found these burials at St Helens

12 Jan 1845 William Francis Fry of Bury Lane age 6 weeks
Aug 3 1852 Mary Fry of Bury Lane, Infant
Aug 3 1852 Elizabeth Fry of Bury St, Infant

      There is a chance that these are William and Elizabeths as they lived in Bury Lane

           And this one seems to be a definate as age fits

Dec 21 1847 Elizabeth Fry of Bury Lane age 6 years

      Let me know if i can help you anymore Smiley Smiley

                        Sue
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« Reply #9 on: Monday 28 April 08 18:41 BST (UK) »
Hi again Kiwigal,

          Had to rush out again earlier but just realized the William Francis who died

is yours. Also had another look at baptisms and found the following at ST Helens

28 May 1855 William Fry
17 May 1852 Mary Fry born 14 May 1852
24 Dec 1865 Mary Fry born 15 Jan 1853  Huh
   Parents William and Elizabeth of Bury Lane, Williams occ Boatman

Couldnt find a bap for Elizabeth who died in 1852. Also Mary born 1853 but not bap till 1865 Huh Huh

                              Sue
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« Reply #10 on: Monday 28 April 08 19:07 BST (UK) »

  On Free BMD and A------y it gives Charlotte as getting married in Abingdon in 1865.

   This is the only one ive found but see what you think Smiley

10 Dec 1865 St Helens Abingdon
Frederick Town, bach, occ cordwainer, living Bury Lane, father Emanuel Town, occ woodman
Charlotte Fry, sp, living Bury Lane, father Frederick Fry occ boatman ( maybe misprinted) Huh
  Wits: James Swadling

Please let me know if i can help anymore Smiley Smiley

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« Reply #11 on: Monday 28 April 08 19:45 BST (UK) »

  Sorry back again Grin

   Dont know if you have this. 1891 Marcham, Berkshire
      RG12/ 979/ 64/ 16

George A Lay head age 45 b Long Handbrough, Berkshire occ stone mason
Mary ( Mary Fry) wife age 38 b Abingdon
William A son age 17 b Abingdon
Mary dau age 14 b Abingdon
Elizabeth M dau age 10 b Abingdon
Alice dau age 8 b Abingdon
Albert son age 5 b Abingdon
Ellen dau age 3 b Abingdon
Henry son age 1 b Abingdon
Elizabeth Fry mother in law age 79 b Bath, Somerset

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« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 29 April 08 12:20 BST (UK) »
Hi Sue
Wow, so much info. I was going to have an early night tonight. (Husband is rolling his eyes at me in disgust....again) Grin

I am pretty sure that Ann Wiblin was William's (son of William and Elizabeth) first wife, there is a death for an Ann Fry in 1875 in Abingdon [2c-160] and a birth for a William Francis Fry Abingdon in 1873 [2c-269]. And there is a 7 year old William living with William Snr and his wife Elizabeth in cen 1881. Here he is recorded as a nephew but I think he is probably their grandson.

William married Elizabeth Ann Armstrong in 1882 in Greenwich.

According to Free BDM indexes a William Fryer married Elizabeth Large; Abingdon 1839 [6 - 131] which would fit in very nicely date wise. This is what got me looking at the name Fryer.

Shall have a wee dig.
Thanks so much for all your help
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« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 29 April 08 16:45 BST (UK) »
Hi Kiwigal,

   Looked up this marriage for you in PRs

11 Jan 1839 at St Helens

William Fryer. bach, age 22, bargeman, living Bridge St, father Francis Fryer, carpenter
Elizabeth Large, sp, age 24, servant, living Bridge St, father Josiah Large, boat builder
       Wits: Emma Dutton


   Hope this helps and if you need anything else looking up just say  Smiley Smiley


                              Sue





 

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« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 29 April 08 22:03 BST (UK) »
As my grandfather would have said " girl, your blood is worth bottling"

Sue,
Thankyou so much for all your info. I have to go to work myself for a while.

I work for my hubby and he has taken my laptop off me, as I get side tracked at work. Nasty man Grin

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