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marriage please Garbutt Winspear
« on: Monday 28 April 08 00:14 BST (UK) »
I have John Garbutt born 1805 Knilesworth married Hannah.When did they marry? Also John appears in 1841 as Garbutt,1851 as Garbutt Winspear, and Garbutt in 1861,WHY? Any help much appreciated. His children are listed as Garbutt, but when they marry they use Garbutt Winspear....
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Re: marriage please Garbutt Winspear
« Reply #1 on: Monday 28 April 08 07:43 BST (UK) »
Hi Binka,

I'm not sure where Knilesworth is but a possible explanation as to why John uses different names could be that he was born illegitimately to a Miss Winspear who later married a Garbutt (with Mr Garbutt possibly even being John's actual father)

Extracted IGI christening:

JOHN WINSPER
Birth 23 JUN 1802 - Christening 29 AUG 1802 Hawnby, Yorkshire
Mother ELIZABETH WINSPER 

Extracted IGI marriage:
ELIZABETH WINSPEAR - JOHN GARBUT 
Marriage 13 NOV 1804   Hawnby, Yorkshire   

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I suppose you've seen this member-submitted record on the IGI?
JOHN GARBUTT WINSPEAR - HANNAH STONEHOUSE
Marriage 22 AUG 1835   Lastingham, Yorkshire
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Re: marriage please Garbutt Winspear
« Reply #2 on: Monday 28 April 08 20:19 BST (UK) »
Thankyou so much for the info,I have not seen the member submitted record.If you find anything else on marriages of the Garbutt Winspears, I would be very grateful. Thanks
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Re: marriage please Garbutt Winspear
« Reply #3 on: Monday 28 April 08 20:21 BST (UK) »
I don't have access to the records but maybe someone else will  Smiley
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Re: marriage please Garbutt Winspear
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 29 April 08 08:29 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I think you'll find he was born in SNILESWORTH which is in the parish of Hawnby.  Hawnby PRs are transcribed on Genuki and show the birth and marriage as above.  I have Lastingham PR transcript on CD which shows the marriage but no more details.  Think Tati's interpretation of events is a reasonable assumption.

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« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 30 April 08 01:05 BST (UK) »
Hi Binka,

There is a Monumental Inscription in Hawnby that says John Garbutt Winspear erected a stone in memory of his grandparents Ann Flintoft (died 1822 aged 75) and William Flintoft (died 1829 aged 92).

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Re: marriage please Garbutt Winspear
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 30 April 08 16:02 BST (UK) »
Thankyou how interesting.So does that make John's real father a Flintoft? As, if he was illigit  son of Elizabeth Winspear who then married John Garbutt. What do you think?
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Re: marriage please Garbutt Winspear
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 30 April 08 18:49 BST (UK) »
Hi Binka,

I'm afraid I have no idea.  Perhaps if you looked at the Hawnby parish records you might get further info.

By the way, I have John Garbutt Winspear as a witness to the Will of one of my ancestors who lived in Snilesworth.  There is a Garbutt connection to the family but I've no idea if it includes John.

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Re: marriage please Garbutt Winspear
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 30 April 08 19:04 BST (UK) »
Thanks.I will see what I can find out.John Garbutt Winspear is my husband's great grandfather, so any info is most welcome.
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« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 30 April 08 19:08 BST (UK) »
Hi Binka,

I have a couple of Winspear baptisms from the Hawnby records.  Don't know if they are connected to John Garbutt Winspear but happy to send the info if you want to message me.

Lyn
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