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Gadget
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Yes I have those baptisms, Paul, but don't think it's the correct couple - the Moreton Above Robert was a collier and the other Robert, although more likely, had a Charles circa the time that Robert, jnr. was born.
I think all the baptisms where non-conformist - as William's list
I was hoping that the marriage entry had more than the one I had got already - pity that there are no parents listed 
Thanks for trying 
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Indigogirl
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I could do with a bit of help unravelling some of this.
As I understand it:
1. Poss Thomas Edwards and Anne of Rhiwaedog
m 5/3/1772
Why do you think this may be too early?
1a Robert b25th Feb 1796, , son of Thomas Edwards and Anne of Rhiwaedog.
2 Robert Edwards m Sarah Jones
(1822 Ruabon marriage. Aug 19 1822
Robert Edwards. of, R
Sarah Jones. of,R. After Banns.
Witnesses. Richard Davies(X) & Eleanor Valendine(X))
Then these baptisms
Elizabeth,Born 10/03/1823,Baptised 11/04/1823.
Edward,Born 19/05/1825,Baptised 24/07/1825.
Robert,Born 03/09/1827,Baptised 07/10/1827.
Margaret,Born 07/05/1829,Baptised 20/09/1829.
Sarah,Born 21/03/1832,Baptised 05/04/1832.
Sarah?,Born 13/08/1834,Baptised 07/09/1834.
BUT - the parents of these children are possibly Robt Edwards and Sarah Lewis not Sarah Jones?
( "Whilst I can only think that the earliest Sarah must have died,the Parents are given for each one as (Robert Edwards of Llanfor Parish) and Sarah(Maiden name Lewis,Widow).So if it is the correct couple it appears that it was Sarah's second Marriage,her first husband by the Surname of Griffiths died.")
3.Robert Edwards and Sarah Griffiths marrying at St Mary's Church, Ruabon in 1851
Ruabon marriage August 16 1851.
Robert Edwards. 23. Bach. Collier. Rhosllan... Father, Robert. Stone mason.
Sarah Griffiths(X) 21. Spinster. Rhosllan... Father, William. Collier.
Witnesses. John Taylor(X) & Ann Griffiths(X).
I have the children from this marriage.
The youngest of whom was the Margaret Ann Edwards m Moses Williams found by Paul - they are my gt grandparents
Am I still following this correctly? I'm wondering now if those baptisms are a different family - even tho the Robt Edwards 1827 is right time and place
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Edwards, Williams, Griffiths, Gittins in Denbighshire, Merionethshire
Edwards in Monmouthshire.
Kosh, London, Newcastle.
Smart, Rowley Regis,Staffs
Edwards in Pontefract, Castleford, Matlock
Fagan Sheffield, Ireland
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Indigogirl
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Or....... did Robert marry 2 Sarah's?
Jones then Lewis?
Why oy why does everyone have to be called the same names???!!!!!
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Edwards, Williams, Griffiths, Gittins in Denbighshire, Merionethshire
Edwards in Monmouthshire.
Kosh, London, Newcastle.
Smart, Rowley Regis,Staffs
Edwards in Pontefract, Castleford, Matlock
Fagan Sheffield, Ireland
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Indigogirl
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Oh yes- I'd looked at the date and seen Marriage but thought Birth.
24 years is unfeasible really.
Do you have any thoughts about those baptisms and who they may belong to?
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Edwards, Williams, Griffiths, Gittins in Denbighshire, Merionethshire
Edwards in Monmouthshire.
Kosh, London, Newcastle.
Smart, Rowley Regis,Staffs
Edwards in Pontefract, Castleford, Matlock
Fagan Sheffield, Ireland
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Gadget
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hen these baptisms
Elizabeth,Born 10/03/1823,Baptised 11/04/1823.
Edward,Born 19/05/1825,Baptised 24/07/1825.
Robert,Born 03/09/1827,Baptised 07/10/1827.
Margaret,Born 07/05/1829,Baptised 20/09/1829.
Sarah,Born 21/03/1832,Baptised 05/04/1832.
Sarah?,Born 13/08/1834,Baptised 07/09/1834.
Well, I think this is your Robert. I said that they were non-conformist and that no baptisms would show - only marriages.
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Indigogirl
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Hi,
I hope this works but I have attached copy of rates 1835 for Market St, Rhos.
I think this means that Robt(doctor - who must be the 1794 one) is father of Robert and Edward who is deceased.
There is also a Ned and Benjamin Edwards - same street but not necessarily related - I wondered if they might be brothers of Robert 1794.
Would a death cert for Edward Edwards shed any further light on his parentage?
Any chance of another cheeky lookup?
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Edwards, Williams, Griffiths, Gittins in Denbighshire, Merionethshire
Edwards in Monmouthshire.
Kosh, London, Newcastle.
Smart, Rowley Regis,Staffs
Edwards in Pontefract, Castleford, Matlock
Fagan Sheffield, Ireland
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Gadget
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The best thing would be another birth 1837 onwards 
William - any chance of one?
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Indigogirl
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It was too big to send but it says
Robert Edwards(Doctor) - Tad Robert a'r diweddar Edward Edwards
3 houses up it says Ned Edwards, -Tad Benjamin Edwards.
The booklet accompanies a map
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Edwards, Williams, Griffiths, Gittins in Denbighshire, Merionethshire
Edwards in Monmouthshire.
Kosh, London, Newcastle.
Smart, Rowley Regis,Staffs
Edwards in Pontefract, Castleford, Matlock
Fagan Sheffield, Ireland
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Gadget
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what dates/place of birth do you have for them?
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The original information I have did say there was a William too and if this rates book is from 1835 and he wasn't born then - there might be a fighting chance he was after 1837?
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Edwards, Williams, Griffiths, Gittins in Denbighshire, Merionethshire
Edwards in Monmouthshire.
Kosh, London, Newcastle.
Smart, Rowley Regis,Staffs
Edwards in Pontefract, Castleford, Matlock
Fagan Sheffield, Ireland
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Indigogirl
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They are the children of Robert Edwards 1794 who is living in Rhos by then
If we assumed the baptisms above are the childern then Edward b 1825 is presumably the deceased one.
However no William in that list.
That said - the others are female and may have been more difficult to trace which is why they didnt appear in the info I had.
However I'm cautious about these records being the right ones still.
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Edwards, Williams, Griffiths, Gittins in Denbighshire, Merionethshire
Edwards in Monmouthshire.
Kosh, London, Newcastle.
Smart, Rowley Regis,Staffs
Edwards in Pontefract, Castleford, Matlock
Fagan Sheffield, Ireland
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Gadget
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Sorry, Indigo. I was referring to our William.
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Gadget
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The family you refer to are all born Ruabon:
1861 - RG9/4283 Folio 3 Page 25
Edward, 49, carter
Mary, 46
Benjamin, 20, carpenter
Mary, 17, milliner (own account)
All born Ruabon - unless there is another one which I can't find
At this time Robert, snr, was 65.
Do you think that this Edward's father was a Benjamin?
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The Blackwell Index of Non Conformist Baptisms for Denbighshire produced by Clwyd FHS,only lists Baptisms up to 1837.
Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.
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Jones,Griffiths.Stephens,Parry,Gabriel,Conway,Hughes,Evans,Roberts,Lea,Hanmer.Peake,Edwards.Newnes,Davies. All North Wales. Conway,Durber,Cartlidge,Lovatt,Bebington.Brindley,Sankey,Brunt.Dean.Clewes.Rhodes. All Stoke-on-Trent. Francis-Nantwich Cheshire. Dennell-Cheshire/Staffordshire. Census Information Is Crown Copyright,from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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