Mogsmum
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Sorry to bring this up ... again, but I'm trying to find Edwin Butcher. He was born in Horsmonden in abt. 1841 and emigrated to New Zealand. I have some biographical information from the early 1900s on his brother John (then living in the USA) in which it says that his (John's) brother Edwin 'lives in New Zealand'.
I realise I need to find when Edwin arrived in New Zealand and, if I can find out when he died I can probably go on from there. The problem I have is finding this information.
What would be helpful is if someone could point me in the right direction of where to start searching. I have followed a number of the suggested rescources but I just don't seem to be getting anywhere as all the links seem to lead back to the lists of records held without actually being able to search them.
Am I expecting too much or, as I suspect, just going about it in the wrong way?
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Lucy2
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The following, was the only record I could find of an "Edwin BUTCHER" travelling to NZ :
> Arrived at Dunedin, 24 May 1874 (from London) aboard the "James Nicol Fleming" :
BUTCHER, Edwin, 29 - Middlesex - carpenter
accompanied by - Sarah (24), Clara E. (5), Edwin (4), Helen (3) and Hannah, 2 months.
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Mogsmum
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Confused isn't the word!!
Firstly, thank you to everyone who has tried to sort this out.
I very much appreciate all the help people have given and I'll certainly have a look at the link Bunny kindly posted - although my Edwin would have been around 66 years old in 1917, (rather than 70) that isn't so far off as to be totally impossible given the 'rounding down' factor - which I confess had temporarily slipped my mind.
I'm grateful to Lu as well and will see if I can make a connection somewhere between my Edwin who was definitely born in Horsmonden (and was still there 10 years later) and when/how he 'fetched up' in Middlesex. There is still that 4 year age gap - mine would have been 33 not 29 - but again, not an impossible difference.
Lucy2 - Could I please just ask one further question then I promise I'll stop. Where did you find the arrival information? I ask so that, in future, I can look things up for myself rather than always asking for assistance.
My thanks to you all, as I've said, it's very much appreciated.
MM
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Lucy2
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Hi MM
No, no, ..... don't "stop asking questions" - that's what this forum is all about. 
Have a look at the first page of this board (the "stickered" items) and in particular "Resources for those researching NZ relatives" ... lots of helpful web addresses posted there.
Passenger list info was found at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ourstuff/OurStuff.htm
The following (my favourite), is almost a "one-stop-shop" - click on >> Govt. Departments, Councils link
http://www.pycroft.co.nz/services
Lu
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Mk2_Zephyr
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Do know who Edwins parents are ?
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casalguidi
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I'm wondering if that family travelling to New Zealand in 1874 could be this one in the 1871 census ....................
1871
New Town, Denham, Buckinghamshire
Edwin (surname looks more like BUTLER) head mar 28 carpenter b.Uxbridge Middlesex
Sarah wife 21 b.Uxbridge Middlesex
Edwin son 16m b.Uxbridge Middlesex
Ellen dau 5m b.Denham Buckinghamshire
Hannah mother wid 71 b.Audlem Cheshire
Clara GOODCHILD dau 26m (no birthplace given)
RG10/1398 folio 62 page 23
I'm not sure given the question over the surname but the occupation, names & ages kind of fit .................. if it is though, it wouldn't be Edwin from Horsmonden 
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Mk2_Zephyr
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But isn't he really looking for Charles ?
and whats the possibility that John who was in America and had a brother Edwin isn't his Charles brother at all.
He really needs to go back to basics and get the certs going back to his Charles.
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Mogsmum
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I always seem to be saying thank you, but again, thank you.
Believe it or not I do try the 'sticky' links, but I think it's the sheer wealth of information which confuses me. So I'd just like to say a special thank you to Bunny and Lu for pointing me in the 'proper' direction so that in future, I can as I said, look up things for myself. And I'd like to thank Casalguidi too for the unfailing patience shown in trying to sort out these wretched Butchers, both here and on the Kent board.
As for the confusion of names - this family (and in this they're not unique) has turned up as anything from Butcher to Butchers, Bulcher, Butler and on one famous occasion (thanks to Tati) a transcription as Bunker - all the same family! And anyone following me in my family won't have to establish that an Emma never was an Emma but a Winifred (she was never baptised and eventually had to register her own birth, was illiterate and when asked 'Christian name?' somehow managed to give her mother's and therefore, after 71 years of being Emma, is registered as Winifred!!) After that, Sarah Annie or Annie Sarah should be a breeze!
So now, as promised - and with grateful thanks to all - I stop.
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