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Topic: 1901 Census lookup Greenock BISSET (Read 473 times)
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LibHastings
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Hi List,
I was wondering if someone had access to the 1901 Census for Greenock? The family was possibly living at 15 Finnart Street.
I'm looking for James Grant BISSET, wife Jennie (or Janet) abt 34, with possible children: Jessie 18 (daug from first marriage), son 5, David 4, and x2 daughters aged abt 2 and 1.
many thanks in advance
Libby
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ENGLAND
Essex - ALGAR, KETLEY
Durham - ASHMORE, TODD, WALKER
Kent - CHEESEMAN
Worc/Staff - BRADLEY
also WILBY
SCOTLAND
Perth, Renfrew, Stirling - BRAND
also GRAY, MICKLEJOHN, CRAWFORD, CHRISTIE
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elaine447
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think this might be the family your looking for
James G Bisset ........45.....born Elgin
Janet Bisset.............33.....born Greenock
catherine Bisset.......16.....born Greenock
David .......................4......born Greenock
James.......................5......born Greenock
Janet........................2......born Greenock
Gertrude...................1.....born Greenock
the address on the census is
19 Ardgowan street Greenock
there is an Ann Grant at the address too
also another daughter I think
Elaine
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Given,McCorkindale,Kennaway,Wylie,Cameron,Mooney,McCloskey,Black,
McCafferty,Gillespie,Jamieson,Keith,Adam,Quigley,Ainslie,
McHugh,Malone,Fisher,Burns,Gallacher,Nelson,Dunleavy,Brannan,
Docherty,McCluskey,Fitzpatrick,Barclay, Peacock
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1901
Registration number 564/2
Greenock West
Greenock Renfrewshire
19 Ardgowan Street (W)
Bissett James G age 45 Carver and Guilder-painter Elgin Morayshire
Janet wife age 33 Greenock
Coburn F dau age 18 Greenock assistant in shop
Catherine dau age 16 Greenock
James G son age 5 Greenock
David B son age 4 Greenock
Janet A dau age 2 Greenock
Gertrude dau age 1 Greenock
Ann M Grant Aunt age 77 born Elgin Morayshire
Pam
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oakley, Leadbeater, Hemming, Jones, Pearsall, Page,------ Aston, Leominster, Balsall Heath, Tewkesbury, Kings Norton, Birmingham. census information are crown copyright of www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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elaine447
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Hi Libby there are births on BMD for Greenock at James Watt Library
for Bisset family at Finnart Street and also Ardgowan Street
sorry I dont know how to put the link to it
but there is one on here somewhere you can google Inverclyde council
and you will find it
Elaine
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Given,McCorkindale,Kennaway,Wylie,Cameron,Mooney,McCloskey,Black,
McCafferty,Gillespie,Jamieson,Keith,Adam,Quigley,Ainslie,
McHugh,Malone,Fisher,Burns,Gallacher,Nelson,Dunleavy,Brannan,
Docherty,McCluskey,Fitzpatrick,Barclay, Peacock
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LibHastings
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Yes, this appears to be the family.
Thanks Elaine, I did find the link for the BDM info at the James Watt Library. That's how I knew who I was basically was looking for but wanted to confirm names, etc.
cheers
Libby
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ENGLAND
Essex - ALGAR, KETLEY
Durham - ASHMORE, TODD, WALKER
Kent - CHEESEMAN
Worc/Staff - BRADLEY
also WILBY
SCOTLAND
Perth, Renfrew, Stirling - BRAND
also GRAY, MICKLEJOHN, CRAWFORD, CHRISTIE
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LibHastings
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Sorry folks, would it possible to find James in 1891 Census?
First wife died in 1889, so James is probably with daughters: Jessie, Margaret (abt  and Catherine (abt 6). More than likely, he'll be at the same address.
many thanks
Libby
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ENGLAND
Essex - ALGAR, KETLEY
Durham - ASHMORE, TODD, WALKER
Kent - CHEESEMAN
Worc/Staff - BRADLEY
also WILBY
SCOTLAND
Perth, Renfrew, Stirling - BRAND
also GRAY, MICKLEJOHN, CRAWFORD, CHRISTIE
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1891
Registration number 564/2
Greenock West
Greenock Renfrewshire
8 Brisbane Street
James G Bisset age 42 born Elgin Moray Carver and Guilder
Cockburn G Bisset dau age 8 (Coburn in 1901 and Cockburn here 1891) born Greenock
Catherine J Bisset dau age 6 Greenock
Mary Horrmann mother age 58 born Goarg Lanarkshire Annuity
Edward Horrman age 18 apprentice Tea Merchant born Kilnoburgh Dumbartonshire says son to James G but must be son to Mary Horrman who is also James G mother.
James Young friend age 84 Draper born Dunkeld Perthshire
Francis L Donaldson servant age 15 born London
Ann McClement servant age 53
Mathilda Moler vistor London Dressmaker
Pam
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oakley, Leadbeater, Hemming, Jones, Pearsall, Page,------ Aston, Leominster, Balsall Heath, Tewkesbury, Kings Norton, Birmingham. census information are crown copyright of www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Hello I do not think Mary/Margaret Mcdonald/Horseman is mother in law to James Bissett there is no daughter Catherine with her maybe the families were mixed up by the transcriber wish I could view the original census .
1881
Registration number 503
Row
Helensburgh Dumbartonshire
6 Suffolk Street
John Horseman age 83 Ireland Kings County Inland Revenue officer retired
Mary P Horseman age 50 born Glasgow
Edward Horseman son age 9 Dumbertonshire
Robert Donaldson age 22 stepson Glasgow not employed
1871
Registration number 583
Row
Dumbartonshire
63 Princess Street
John Hersman age 62 born Ireland Retired officer from ?
Service
Mary P Hersman wife age 39 born Glasgow Lanarkshire
Robert Donaldson age 11 stepson Glasgow
1861
registration number 646/1
Govan
Glasgow Lanarkshire
2 Arthur place
James Donaldson age 34 Railway Cl Glasgow
Mary wife age 29 Glasgow
James son age 13 Glasgow
Jeanie dau age 12 Glasgow
Robert son age 2 Glasgow
1851
Parish Number 622
Barony Lanarkshire
92 Buccleuch Street
James Donaldson age 24 Glasgow Merchant
Margaret wife age 19 Glasgow
James son age 3 Glasgow
Jeanne P dau age 2 Glasgow
Barbara Cumming servant
Catherine McGreggor servant
Janet Telfer servant
Pam
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elaine447
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found the following
1881 census 13 Nelson street Greenock
James G Bisset..........Lodger........unmarried.......31..............picture frame gilder. Elgin
Jane Mc N Lawson.....Head...........widowed.........60.............annuitant............Port Glasgow
Elaine
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Given,McCorkindale,Kennaway,Wylie,Cameron,Mooney,McCloskey,Black,
McCafferty,Gillespie,Jamieson,Keith,Adam,Quigley,Ainslie,
McHugh,Malone,Fisher,Burns,Gallacher,Nelson,Dunleavy,Brannan,
Docherty,McCluskey,Fitzpatrick,Barclay, Peacock
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1881
Registration Number 564/3
Greenock West
Renfrewshire
13 Nelson Street
Jane F Mc N Lawson age 60 born Port Glasgow annuitant
James G Bissett age 32 Picture Frame Guilder born Elgin Morayshire Lodger
1871
Registration Number 644/8
Anderston
Glasgow Barony Lanarkshire
Margaret Ross head age 60
Agness Ross dau age 26
Thomas Freser lodger age 33 cabinet maker
James benston? age 23 lodger born Elgin Morayshire Cabinet maker
1871
Parish Number 135a
Elgin Morayshire
201(Close) High Street
Daniel Bisset age 66 journeyman painter Dundee
Margaret Bisset age 57 Elgin
Jessie G Bissett grandaughter age 1 Elgin
1861
Registration number 135
Elgin Morayshire
201 High Street
Daniel Bisset age 52 Dundee Painter
Margaret wife age 48 Elgin
James Bisset son age 14 Elgin
Clemeantina dau age 11 born Elgin
1851
Elgin Morayshire
Parish Number 135
9 Balchen Street
Daniel Bessel age 42 Elgin Painter
Margt Bessel wife age 38 Elgin
William Bessel son age 17 Painter
Margt Bessel dau age 15 Elgin
Daniel Bessel son age 11 Elgin
Mary Bessel dau age 9
Jesse Bessel dau age 6 Elgin
James Bessett son age 3
Clementine Bessie dau age 1
1841
Parish Number 135
Elgin Morayshire
Clarks Close
Daniel Bisset age 30 painter Scotland
Margt wife age 27 Moray
Isabella dau age 9 Moray
William son age 7 Moray
Margaret dau age 5 Moray
Eliza dau age 3 Moray
Daniel son age 1 Elgin
Elspet Dunbar FS
Pam
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1891 census
the family named horseman are only neighbours to James Bisset
He is on the census with Cohburn and Catherine and Ann McClement who
is down as servant
so I guess she is employed by James to look after the girls
if you send me a pm with your email address I will send you the copy of the cert
Elaine
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Given,McCorkindale,Kennaway,Wylie,Cameron,Mooney,McCloskey,Black,
McCafferty,Gillespie,Jamieson,Keith,Adam,Quigley,Ainslie,
McHugh,Malone,Fisher,Burns,Gallacher,Nelson,Dunleavy,Brannan,
Docherty,McCluskey,Fitzpatrick,Barclay, Peacock
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LibHastings
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OK. What I have worked out so far is:
James G BISSET's first wife was Catherine Mary McAulay DONALDSON. Details of Catherine's death from the Watt Library lists: Catherine McCulloch, wife of James G. Bisset, carver, died at 14 Ardgowan Street, Greenock on 14th April 1889. Her birth is listed on IGI as Mary Catherine DONALDSON, 24 Dec 1864 in Lanark. Parents listed as James DONALDSON and Mary Paterson ALLAN. A younger sister, Margaret McAulay DONALDSON was born in 1863.
When searching for McCulloch, McAulay was an alternative spelling.
Mary Paterson DONALDSON (nee ALLAN) married John HORSMAN 6 Sep 1870 in Lanark. Their son Edward HORSMAN (who appears with Mary P in 1881 and 1891) was born 27 AUG 1872 in Dunbarton (also on IGI). Parents listed as John HORSMAN and Mary Paterson ALLAN.
I would also think the Francis L Donaldson in the 1891 Census with the Bisset's and Horsman's is somehow related to Mary P.
I haven't placed Catherine Mary (or Mary Catherine DONALDSON) in 1871 or 1881 Census yet either. I guess it's possible that Catherine was Margaret McAulay DONALDSON and dropped the Margaret and used Catherine!?
I have also placed the Robert Donaldson in 1871 with the Hersman's as being the son of Mary Paterson ALLAN. He was born 25 Mar 1859 in Lanark.
What do you think Pam? It all seems to fit to me.
Libby
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Kent - CHEESEMAN
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Perth, Renfrew, Stirling - BRAND
also GRAY, MICKLEJOHN, CRAWFORD, CHRISTIE
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Why are not the girls with the mother? Cannot see Catherine/Mary/Margaret. 1871 1881
THis would not be the correct Mary!
1871
Registration number 651/1
Aidrie
New Monkland
Lanarkshire
25 North Bridge Street
Mary Allen age 77 Airdrie
Mary Allen dau age 47 Aidrie Lanarkshire Cotton Weaver
Mary Donaldson grandaughter age 10 Glasgow Lanarkshire
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LibHastings
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I know children were sometimes living with other family members but not sure about the girl/s as they would have only been about 6-8 years old.
Catherine/Mary/Margaret's mother was Mary Paterson ALLAN, but she had married HORSMAN in 1870, so I don't think the above family is correct. The grandmother's name was Margaret (not Mary) and different spelling of ALLAN/ALLEN (but realise this happens).
This is not a direct line so maybe I'll chew it over for a while and see if I can find out anything else.
Thank you very much for your input.
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Kent - CHEESEMAN
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also WILBY
SCOTLAND
Perth, Renfrew, Stirling - BRAND
also GRAY, MICKLEJOHN, CRAWFORD, CHRISTIE
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