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NZ BMD Certs, area now needed???
« on: Monday 28 April 08 15:56 BST (UK) »

Hi Chatters,

I applied for 3 Marriage certs. through a Transcription Agent in Sydney on 26th March and have been informed last week that the certs. have not been processed as there was no area of marriage provided.

I thought all you had to provide was year of marriage and folio ref. no. Huh

I was a little suspicious of the agents info., so rang Wellington BMD and was informed that recently there were changes and YES you do have to provide an exact area or up to 3 districts!! to search.

I really do not know what is going on, and any info anyone can provide would be appreciated.

Trish

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Re: BMD Certs, area now needed???
« Reply #1 on: Monday 28 April 08 16:01 BST (UK) »

If I do not reply to any answers to this till late tomorrow night , it is because I have a double-shift at work tomorrow !!

Regards,
Trish ( in Sydney)


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Re: BMD Certs, area now needed???
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 29 April 08 02:58 BST (UK) »

Hi Trish

Just a little curious about your query ?

Does this relate to Wellington, NEW SOUTH WALES ?

Or, Wellington, NEW ZEALAND ?

Lu

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Oops ! Hi again Trish .... have just now spotted your postings on the AUS board, and I see very clearly this DOES relate to NZ Marriage certs. WOW ... that's all news to me ... I too am off to phone BDM !


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« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 30 April 08 00:07 BST (UK) »

Hi Lu,

I have spoken to the Transcription Agent, he is perplexed as me. I had provided the correct details ( he checked the micro-fiche to be sure).

He is contacting NZ BMD today and ringing me back. Hopefully this will be sorted out today.

Wil let you know what the outcome is.

Regards,
Trish


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Re: BMD Certs, area now needed???
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 30 April 08 02:50 BST (UK) »

Thats strange, because they have an alphabetical list for each year.


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« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 30 April 08 02:51 BST (UK) »

Hi Trish

Yesterday I made two separate phonecalls to BDM here.
I remain gobsmacked at their stupidity ! Roll Eyes

Yes, they have a newly-instituted policy which requires "place of marriage" to be stated when ordering a certificate or printout. (The policy, apparently borne-out of complaints received at search fees being charged, when BDM have been unable to find a marriage record) ! Roll Eyes

BUT ... the utterly ridiculous aspect is, that there is NO publicly available (or searchable) index, which actually gives information on where a marriage took place !!

Somehow NZ BDM seem not yet, to have grasped this fact !

I can't see how they can compel you to give information which is not realistically obtainable ?

And were it me ordering some certs. and being presented with this "dilemma" ..... I would be giving BMD a very BIG "SERVE" ! Grin

After all, the old system of just providing them with the info which appears on the NZ Marriage Index, has always worked perfectly well in the past !

Best of luck Trish .... do hope after all this unnecessary nonsense, that you get your long-awaited certs, quick-smart !

Regards
Lu

PS ... don't forget to give us an update on how you get on


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Re: BMD Certs, area now needed???
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 30 April 08 02:55 BST (UK) »

And that is VERY much correct Lucy, no public search indexes for place. Roll Eyes


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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 30 April 08 03:08 BST (UK) »

Hi Zephyr

Strange ..... "TRAGIC" more like ? Roll Eyes

AND to have had this matter brought to our attention by a "Cuzzie from across the Ditch"
(Trish in OZ

) .... well Embarrassed

BDM deserve a few phone calls (0800 22 52 52) and emails
.... don't they ?

Lu Grin


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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 30 April 08 03:59 BST (UK) »

Hi Lu and MK2,

Still have not heard anything from Agent. I will ring him later this afternoon.

This whole mess is ABSOLUTELY incredible!!!

After all the help I had from people including Riley, MK2 and Anthea in finding the Folio no's. for me, I can't get the certs.

Yes, they do deserve a walloping.

I am actually a NZ expat after growing up in Hamilton.

Regards,
Trish


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« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 30 April 08 04:25 BST (UK) »

Hi Trish

... have just crawled out from under a rock to post this message.

We remain frightfully embarrassed by the antics of NZ BDM !

Lu


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« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 30 April 08 07:58 BST (UK) »

Hi

New Zealand Govt Departments totally amaze me - another one has reached IRD's level

If they want three districts listed how about ...
North Island, South Island and an island near you - mine being Centre Island.

If you pick the wrong three districts do you wave your 20 bucks goodbye??? and have to pay for a search fee!!!!!! sounds like another tax.

Thanks heaps Christine


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« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 30 April 08 09:22 BST (UK) »

Hi Christine,

Love your sense of humour LOL !! What about Middle Earth, NZ.!!!

On a more serious note another Chatter has contacted me by P.M. and they got a different response from the person they spoke to at BMD.
They were told nothing has changed!!! A totally different response to Lucy2 and my enquiries.

trish


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« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 30 April 08 11:28 BST (UK) »

Yeah ... nice one Christine Grin

Quote from: trish1120 on Wednesday 30 April 08 09:22 BST (UK)

On a more serious note another Chatter has contacted me by P.M. and they got a different response from the person they spoke to at BMD.
They were told nothing has changed!!! A totally different response to Lucy2 and my enquiries.

trish

Most interesting news Trish. Perhaps BDM have now "seen the light" and reverted to their "usual" policy ?
[When I phoned, I certainly didn't hold back on telling
them how pathetic they were ! The got "both barrels", "both times" !]

Lu


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« Reply #13 on: Friday 02 May 08 15:01 BST (UK) »

Hi to everyone interested,

Just to let you know I STILL have not received my marriage certs. Angry

Trish


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« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 13 May 08 09:48 BST (UK) »

Hi,

Confirmed today, CERTS are being processed Grin

Trish


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