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Topic: Frederick William KENNY from Germany to Australia (Read 209 times)
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Rochdalian
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Hi Svenja
If you don't mind I would like to highjack your thread a little(*). My wife's great grandfather was Frederick William Kenny, nothing remarkable in that you may think. However he states on his marriage certificate, and also on children's birth certificates, that he comes from Fairwater, Germany. He also states that his parents were Richard Kenny and Johanna Poltik. Not only can I not find when and how he arrived in Australia I can't find anything about his past. He was born c1856. I have gone through all the possible places after trying to directly translate Fairwater into German and the best I came up with is Schoenwasser.
I am looking for some advice on the best way to find this man and his parents please. Kenny is certainly not a German name so it is possible his name was anglisized on arrival. Or he may have made the whole thing up.
Hope you can point me in the right direction.
Cheers
Bob
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Svenja
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Hi Bob
I have put your question in a german Forum where I'm moderator.
Familie Kenny-Poltik aus Fairwater in Deutschland?
I will translate the answers which hopefully will come and write them here.
Or it will be better if you open a new thread in the Immigrants Forum here.
Have you seen the original marriage and children's birth records?
Are you sure that you have transcribed the placename correctly?
Where did they live in Australia? What was his profession?
What was his wifes name? Where did his wife come from?
Greetings from Switzerland
Svenja
@ all others: I'm still searching for August Rudolph Wolf (Wolff, Wolfe) in Australia.
(on original topic: http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,300293.0.html )
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Switzerland + USA: Iten, Letter, Schwager
Germany/Bavaria: Beinberger, Schleich, Pracht/Bracht
Germany/Franken: Weidner, Reuss, Beifuss, Trenkert
I can read and write German, English and French.
I can translate from Italian and Latin to the above languages.
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Rochdalian
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Hi Svenja
Thanks for your reply and for posting my conundrum on the German forum.
The first evidence of the existence of this man is when he married on 26 January 1884. On the certificate he gives his age as 27 years, his status as bachelor and his profession as labourer. He married Rose Ann Maslin a 15 year old 4th generation Australian with convict ancestors. The marriage took place in Castlemaine in the state of Victoria and it appears he spent the rest of his life in Victoria, dying in 1944 in Mildura. He appears to have become estranged from his children after his wife was committed to a hospital for the insane in 1896 after the birth of her 6th child in ten years. She was never released and died there in 1921. My wife's grandmother was raised by her mother's brother.
I have not sighted all the children's birth certificates but the place name 'Fairwater' is quite clear on the marriage certificate and birth certificate of Julia Bertha my wife's grandmother.
Thanks again
Cheers
Bob
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Hi Svenja
Just wondering if there has been any response after you posted on the German forum?
Cheers
Bob
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Svenja
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Hi Bob
Unfortunately I still don't know, which place in Germany is meant with "Fairwater".
The name Kenney could be in German Kaening or Kennel, but that isn't sure.
On the website of the Mormons www.familysearch.org you can see, that the
surname Kaening comes from Mecklenburg-Vorpommern (Western Pommerania).
On the same website you can see, that the surname Kennel is known in different
parts of Germany but also in many other countries. In Germany is mentioned the
surname Kennel in Pfalz/Bavaria, Rhineland, Hessen, Württemberg, West-Prussia.
For the surname POLTIK I don't know where it came from. Some possible variations
of the name are: POLTIG, POLTING or BOLDIG, BOLDING or GOLDIG, GOLDING or...
I will refresh the thread in the German Forum hoping there is someone who has
some more ideas on your case. I think it should be possible to narrow down the
possible places where both surenames are known, Poltik and Kaening or Kennel.
Greetings from Switzerland
Svenja
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Rochdalian
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Hi Svenya
Thanks very much for your efforts, at least it gives me some more variations on the names Kenny & Poltik. I have always been aware that the names were possibly anglisized when he first arrived in OZ.
So, we keep searching.
Thanks again
Bob
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Svenja
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Hi Bob
Another researcher means it could be that Fairwater is
Overwater (=>Verwater =>Fairwater). Overwater is
situated between Osnabrück and the border of the
Netherlands. It belongs to the Bundesland Lower Saxony
(Niedersachsen) and is situated in the south near the
border to the Bundesland Nordrhein-Westfalen. In the
local directory the other researcher has found some
entries with the name Kenning.
This is the website of the archives of Lower Saxony:
http://www.archivportal.niedersachsen.de/
You can click there on "Suche nach Archiven in Niedersachsen"
then you can see which archives are in which Landkreis (County).
Or you can click on "Recherche in den Online-Findbüchern"
then a search form comes up and you can enter a surname.
On the online database GedBas there are also some entries
with the names Kenny, Kenney, Kennel, Kenning, Kenninger.
http://gedbas.genealogy.net/
On the online database GeneaNet there are also some entries
with the names Kenny, Kenney, Kennel, Kännel, Kenning, Kenninger.
http://www.geneanet.org/
On the online database ancestry.de there are also some entries with
the names Kenny, Kenney, Kennel, Kännel, Kannel, Kenning, Kenninger.
http://www.ancestry.de/
Best regards
Svenja
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I can translate from Italian and Latin to the above languages.
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Rochdalian
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Hi Svenja
Thanks for that new batch of information, it gives me plenty to do now.
Cheers
Bob
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