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JAP
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Hi melonsmum and Monica,
Now the next instalment 
Monica, you are allowed to have a gentle laugh at me  Yes, I've often commented on the way you seem to spend on SP in order to help people - and I've said that I'm miser meany and avoid doing so 
Well, I couldn't resist downloading the Will of Rev James SCOTT, Relief Minister of Jedburgh (no laughing pls). If either/both of you would like to PM your email address(es), I'll forward it.
This James drew up his Will in 1818; made a codicil in 1820; and died in 1823: the Will was proven in 1830. What is also interesting is that, in the original Will, Rev James of Jedburgh refers to his "only son Revd James Scott formerly Minister of the Relief Congregation or Church at Dalkeith now in Edinburgh". So it certainly seems as though the Will concerns the family we are currently exploring. Son James signed when the Will was proved in 1830.
Rev James of Jedburgh's Will refers not only to his only son James but also to two daughters - to youngest daughter Christian and to his other daughter Agnes who is married to a LAIDLAW and has children James & Jessy. It also mentions a brother (George) of Rev James snr.
The Relief Church apparently began in Jedburgh. And it had many adherents - here's a quote from the First Statistical Account of Scotland ca 1791:
"There are four clergymen in the town of Jedburgh; the minister of the Established Church, of the Relief congregation, of the Burgher, and the Antiburgher, seceders. Their respective examination rolls are as follows: Established Church 800; Relief congregation 1200; Burgher congregation 600; Antiburgher 150 ... Near a half of all the families in the parish of Jedburgh, and a great proportion of the families in all the surrounding parishes, are members of this [Relief] congregation."
Those numbers must have galled the writer of the Account (the Minister of the established Church of Scotland)!
It might be worth posting on the Roxburghshire board (with a cross-reference to this thread) to ask if anyone has any info about Rev James SCOTT of Jedburgh? Similarly on the Midlothian board (with cross-reference) re Rev James SCOTT of the Relief Church of Dalkeith.
Incidentally, the fact that Rev James was in Jedburgh, Roxburghshire is interesting. Perhaps that's the source of a (slightly garbled?) reference to a Scottish Borders background.
Regards,
JAP
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MonicaLesl
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We're moving on a pace here Fingers crossed it's now the right trail.....
The family look to have still been in Glasgow area (Kelvin) in 1888 with the death of eldest daughter Alison Isabella Scott in 1888. Father Thomas reported death. Alison looks to have been ill for many years (paraplegic if I am reading it right).
So, we now have a further window of 1888-92 for a potential move for the family members.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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MonicaLesl
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I feel we are peeling a banana skin here I found Thomas b. 1825 death entry. He died in 1890 in Kelvin, son Thomas reported death. Parents are confirmed.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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MonicaLesl
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 How v. sad......we're following the wrong Thomas....
Thomas b. 1865, son of Thomas and Agnes Norval, married in 1890 to a Sarah Miller. Census entries for 1891 and 1901:
Thomas Scott 25, Warehouseman (Linen), b. Glasgow
Sarah Scott 22, b. Glasgow
Isabella Scott 16, servant, b. Hamilton
Address: 6 Eastburn Pl, Shawlands, Renfrewshire
And in 1901, with no room for doubt:
Thomas Scott 35, Manfarturer's Agent, b. Glasgow
Sarah C Scott 32, wife, b. Glasgow
Mary Scott 9, b. Glasgow
Sarah M Scott 5, b. Glasgow
Jane H Scott 45, sister, Visitor From London, b. Glasgow
Anna G Scott 43, sister, Visitor From London, b. Glasgow
Isabel Scott 41, sister, Visitor From London, b. Glasgow
Maggie Ogilvy 23, servant
Address:8 Seyton Avenue, Cathcart, Renfrewshire
So where now......... 
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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melonsmum
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Monica & Jap...............
I don't know! I was so hopeful when I started reading the posts from you both today...... You have both been so kind and helpful. Another dead end. Maybe someone else will benefit from all the hard work you both did.
I just don't know how to find out more about my Thomas. I honestly thought that him having been born in Scotland would make my research a lot easier as you know how difficult it can be tracing Irish ancestors.
I'm going to visit my 2nd cousin who owns the oil painting. I would like to see the back as there may be something there.
This 2nd cousin who owns the painting, doesn't know very much about Thomas Beattie Scott as he, himself only met him a few times because he was brought up in Edinburgh and admits that he never took much notice about the family history.
Oh how I wish that I'd asked my Dad about him before he died.
I will keep you both informed of what I discover (if anything) about the painting or Thomas himself.
Thanks so much to you both,
Melonsmum
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MonicaLesl
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Melonsmum
Determination and patience is everything in genealogy research of which you have buckets ....all that is needed now is a little bit of luck to begin making all the connections which hopefully you will find
Just a question on your 2nd cousin Does he connect directly to Thomas Beattie Scott side or is he connected to a line that married into the family?
Regards.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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melonsmum
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Hello Monica,
Thanks for the encouragement. My 2nd cousin connects directly to Thomas Beattie Scott. His father is Thomas's eldest son. Unfortunate that he doesn't know very much. (I think that he probably knows a lot more than he realises,) but I have found it hard to keep him on track when asking questions of him.
I am already searching for another likely candidate. I found a family in Partick who also connect to Ballymena, Co. Antrim so maybe that is more likely. The father of this Thomas was a sawyer so I wonder did he progress to Manager by 1892? I suppose that I have to look at all eventualities.
Melonsmum
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MonicaLesl
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If Thomas was born in Scotland, his birth should show.
I hope your cousin stays on track for this round of questioning  I suppose you've done the rounds with all living family members to see whether anyone may still hold some family papers/bible/correspondence etc.
Let us know how you get on.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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melonsmum
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Hi Monica,
I will definately keep you informed as to my progress on this one.
Thanks so much,
Melonsmum
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