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suey
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Re: Name in a will i can't decipher!!!
« Reply #15 on: Friday 21 January 05 13:52 UTC (UK) »

Sad I'm in total agreement with Little Nell on this one, I think your lady is Elizabeth Thomas and a full stop has been left out.
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Re: Name in a will i can't decipher!!!
« Reply #16 on: Monday 24 January 05 09:05 UTC (UK) »
This links in with another thread i posted "meaning of aunt". I m fairly sure that i have all the family members around this time and there are no Thomas's. My line does join up to a Thomas line but not until 1876, if the two families were friends prior to this is it likely that Esther would refer to one of them as aunt even though they wouldn't actually be one.
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Re: Name in a will i can't decipher!!!
« Reply #17 on: Monday 24 January 05 11:31 UTC (UK) »
Hi all,

That is a PCC will if I am not mistaken and if it is that is a classic N so it is now and I would guess it is followed with I hereby give and bequeath.  PCC wills seem to follow a standard writing until the guy doing it is replaced.  The 19th century are much easier than the 18th century.  If I can help more email me direct or leave a personal message.

Rob
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Re: Name in a will i can't decipher!!!
« Reply #18 on: Monday 24 January 05 12:50 UTC (UK) »
Now i have 2 Elizabeth Rows's and 28 Elizabeth Thomas's to go through!!
THANK YOU all for your help and advice. If i get to the bottom of this i'll let you know!!
Thanks once again

Bean

Rob - were there other wills besides PCC ones? I have been searching on the documents online site only, is there somewhere else i should be looking?
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Re: Name in a will i can't decipher!!!
« Reply #19 on: Monday 24 January 05 13:00 UTC (UK) »
The PCC wills are just those that were proved at the Consistory Court of Canterbury other wills were proved at other Bishops courts so yes there are many other depositorires.  You need to locate the CRo nearest to the bishops court for the area in where you are researching.  Then also the CRO's around it.  For Example Lichfield hold a lot of wills for Staffs and Derbyshire until 1840ish then Derbyshire has them.  Nottingham hold Nottinghamshire wills but then so does York.  The PCC wills are in fact probably the najor holding of the wealthy and not so wealthy but I refer you to the above.

I still say with 99% certainty the word is Now.  I transcribed a will recently which was in the exact same hand and the N was always done that way.  The best way to be sure is look for another word where it can only be starting with N.

One final note someone mentioned that punctuation was not present in these documents.  that seems to be the case into the 20th century.  I recently transcribed a property deed dated 8th Nov 1902 and not one punctuation mark in it anywhere

Rob
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Re: Name in a will i can't decipher!!!
« Reply #20 on: Monday 24 January 05 13:17 UTC (UK) »
Thanks Rob - looks like i'd better keep looking!!
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Re: Name in a will i can't decipher!!!
« Reply #21 on: Monday 24 January 05 15:38 UTC (UK) »
Following on from your comments on aunts. There is the possibility,as you suggest, that she is a family friend known as an aunt.
There are also lots of ways person 'x'  could quite legitimately call her aunt:
1) obviously x's mother's sister
2) x's father's sister
3) x's mother's sister-in-law (uncles wife)
4) X's fathers sister -in -law (uncles wife)
5) x's spouse's father's sister
6) x's spouse's mother's sister
7) x's spouse's father's sister-in-law
Cool x's spouse's mother's sister-in-law

Sorry to complicate things, bean, but we're all so keen to get this one sorted!
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Re: Name in a will i can't decipher!!!
« Reply #22 on: Monday 24 January 05 15:50 UTC (UK) »
Hi: I think that the next letter is the first initial of her second name and I thought the last name was Howard or something else entirely. It looked like that there was a period after the initial.
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Re: Name in a will i can't decipher!!!
« Reply #23 on: Monday 24 January 05 16:10 UTC (UK) »
Hi lizdb,
x= Esther Banks

1 & 2, died too late - 1872 and 1878
3, Still alive at Esthers death
5 to 8, Esther wasn't married so these are out.
There is an uncles wife who is Elizabeth but her maiden name was Borrow so unless she remarried after her husbands death.........hadn't thought of that!!
So i can count out spinsters from the earlier 28 Elizabeth Thomas's and both the Elizabeth Rows are out for the same reason. As Rob has said PCC aren't the only wills so i think i need to do a bit more digging. This all came about trying to prove that her father, Richard Banks of Kington, was linked to Laurence Banks of Boys Hall, Kent. Long story............

Thanks yo all of you for your help - VERY much appreciated
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