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Gene Genius
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MacDonald/Mcdonald
« on: Tuesday 29 April 08 22:23 BST (UK) »

I am sorry to post in this way but I have hit a brick wall.

I shall give you all the information as I have it and you must make of it what you will because the more I look the more I am stumped.

My grandad was James Patrick Mac or Mc Donald. He died in France in WW1 and all my Dad knew ( cos he was only four) was that his dad was a Scotsman probably from Greenock.

James Patrick had come down to Wales to look for work in the mines.

He married my grandmother in 1911 at the age of 24 in Wales. I have the certificate. His father was listed as Dominic and was a sailor (deceased).

Now then, I have hunted high and low on Scotland's People and Ancestry for James Patricks with a father called Dominick but have had no luck.

Do any of you think you could have more luck?

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Re: MacDonald/Mcdonald
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 29 April 08 23:01 BST (UK) »

Hi

If you know what year James died, have you checked for him on the CWGC website which will give his service number.  That may help find his service record which may give more info about his birthplace etc
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« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 30 April 08 15:36 BST (UK) »

Thank you. I have his service number. He served in the Welsh Regiment and I know where he is buried. I even have the copy of his Medal Card and the actual medals. None of them help me as to where he was born.

My dad always said his dad was from Greenock and he also used to sing "I Belong to Glasgow" a lot so it is the Glasgow/Greenock area I have been concentrating on. My dad of course was born here in Wales.

I have appealed on many sites hoping that some MacDonald somewhere would remember stories of an uncle who may have left home and come down to Wales looking for work. I have hoped that someone else studying their own tree would realise that their James Patrick was the one I was looking for.
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Re: MacDonald/Mcdonald
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 18 May 08 12:35 BST (UK) »

Gene Genius,

Here are my thoughts.

This may be way off base, but James Patrick and Dominic sound like Irish names to me.  Are they also Scottish names?

Have you checked the 1901 census of Ireland, just in case?

(I know McDonald is a totally Scottish name.)

If James's father was a sailor or merchant seaman, it's possible that he was away at sea when the census was taken.  You'd still hope to find a birth or baptism somewhere for James, though.

Have you tried a local LDS Family History Centre for his baptism?  I would look outside the Presbyterian church, as well.  James Patrick and Dominic also sound like Catholic names to me.

There's always a chance that James was illegitimate and made up a father's name for his marriage record or that his mother remarried at some point and he took his stepfather's name.

Did James have many children?  Do you think he might have followed a Scottish naming pattern that might give you some clues?

You said you have a copy of James's medal cards but do you have his full military record?  That should list his place of birth.

Family stories about places aren't always 100 percent on-target (although yours may very well be).  For example, my father went on and on about his family being from one town.  Well, he and his brother were born there, but they lived in another town when they were little, and his father was actually born and raised in a third town.  It's just that my father's grandfather was that one town's top policeman.

As well, people sometimes use one place name to refer to a larger, general area.

Good luck!
Josephine
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