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Re: Marriage Look-Up: BOWYER with RIDING
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 30 April 08 16:36 BST (UK) »

Guilty as charged!  Embarrassed  I did indeed find Samuel with James and go from there...
I have nothing concrete to link anything to the RIDINGs other than than, so it's quite possible that they are irrelevant.

That aside, finding James linked to Samuel the game-keeping father is still proving a frustrating challenge...?   Huh



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Re: Marriage Look-Up: BOWYER with RIDING
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 30 April 08 16:41 BST (UK) »

Susie
See my post immediately before yours, we must have posted at the same time.

It could be interesting, and it could be the reason we cannot find James with his parents.

Kind regards
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Re: Marriage Look-Up: BOWYER with RIDING
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 30 April 08 17:41 BST (UK) »

Su - you are a super sleuth!  Cheesy
Well done on finding 'James the boarder' - as you say, it could indeed be him.
Hopefully the certificate will come fairly swiftly and we'll be able to confirm one was or another...

Thanks again for all your time and effort!
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Re: Marriage Look-Up: BOWYER with RIDING
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 06 May 08 09:09 BST (UK) »

Morning ladies...
Right the 1853 birth certificate has just arrived...and unless Samuel changed profession, it's not my James...

Date/Place of Birth : 19 Feb 1853, Marston
Name: James
Father: Samuel BOWYER, Rockminer
Mother: Sarah, nee PALIN

I have not had time to look into this as an option any further yet but thought I'd share the info with you first...

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Re: Marriage Look-Up: BOWYER with RIDING
« Reply #19 on: Friday 09 May 08 15:34 BST (UK) »

 Roll Eyes Here we go again  Cheesy 

When my Mum first told me that her grandparents were named Bowyer, I thought, what an unusual name.  Little did I know  Grin

We really need to find the marriage of Samuel and Hannah.
I wonder if Jayson can held by doing a marriage Look Up at Chester for us.  I will PM and ask.

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Re: Marriage Look-Up: BOWYER with RIDING
« Reply #20 on: Friday 09 May 08 17:48 BST (UK) »

Marriage: Samuel BOWYER (b. 1829, Barnton) with with [unknown] RIDING.

Samuel and [unknown] RIDING had at least 2 children, Thomas and James, the latter born in 1852 in Bruern Stapleford or Barnton.

Hi Susie, Su and Mum,

Where did Bruen Stapleford come from?  Could this be a fit (or just make things more confusing!)  Grin

RG9 2624/165 Page 46, Cottage, Bruen Stapleford:

James WILLIAMS, Head, Mar, 54, Farm Lab born Bruen Stapleford
Mary WILLIAMS, Wife, Mar, 63, born Christleton
James WILLIAMS, Son, Mar, 25, Shoemaker born Bruen Stapleford
Betsey WILLIAMS, Dau in law, Mar, 18 born Lancashire Hatherton?
Thomas WILLIAMS, Son, 3m born Bruen Stapleford
James BOYER, Grandson, 7, Scholar born Bruen Stapleford

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CHS: Barber(Tabley) Barlow(Antrobus) Blackshaw(Lymm, Mobberley) Blease/Done/Moore(G Bud) Owen(Netherton, Tabley) Spragg/Witter(Goostrey) Youd(Frodsham) Pennell Bankes Birchall Beckett
DBY: Higginbottom(Mellor)
HRT: Gurney
HRT/BED/ESS: Verney (Markyate St)
LAN: Davenport(Bolton) Schofield/Gurney(Oldham) Lord(Heap) Quinn(Manchester) Sutcliffe(Rossendale)
NTH: Tubb/Johnson(Hellidon)Brown(Kettering)
YKS: Scott(Clapham)
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Re: Marriage Look-Up: BOWYER with RIDING
« Reply #21 on: Friday 09 May 08 17:50 BST (UK) »

And this:

Samuel BOYER m Hannah WILLIAMS 1852 Tarvin St Andrew (www.cheshirebmd.org.uk)

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CHS: Barber(Tabley) Barlow(Antrobus) Blackshaw(Lymm, Mobberley) Blease/Done/Moore(G Bud) Owen(Netherton, Tabley) Spragg/Witter(Goostrey) Youd(Frodsham) Pennell Bankes Birchall Beckett
DBY: Higginbottom(Mellor)
HRT: Gurney
HRT/BED/ESS: Verney (Markyate St)
LAN: Davenport(Bolton) Schofield/Gurney(Oldham) Lord(Heap) Quinn(Manchester) Sutcliffe(Rossendale)
NTH: Tubb/Johnson(Hellidon)Brown(Kettering)
YKS: Scott(Clapham)
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Re: Marriage Look-Up: BOWYER with RIDING
« Reply #22 on: Friday 09 May 08 17:53 BST (UK) »

And to narrow it down in case someone is able to do a look up:

Mar 1852 Great Boughton 8a 415

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CHS: Barber(Tabley) Barlow(Antrobus) Blackshaw(Lymm, Mobberley) Blease/Done/Moore(G Bud) Owen(Netherton, Tabley) Spragg/Witter(Goostrey) Youd(Frodsham) Pennell Bankes Birchall Beckett
DBY: Higginbottom(Mellor)
HRT: Gurney
HRT/BED/ESS: Verney (Markyate St)
LAN: Davenport(Bolton) Schofield/Gurney(Oldham) Lord(Heap) Quinn(Manchester) Sutcliffe(Rossendale)
NTH: Tubb/Johnson(Hellidon)Brown(Kettering)
YKS: Scott(Clapham)
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Re: Marriage Look-Up: BOWYER with RIDING
« Reply #23 on: Friday 09 May 08 18:09 BST (UK) »

Aaaaaagh! Jean, you clever thing you.
Why didn't I think of Boyer?  I've looked for them often enough Bowyer/Boyer.

That marriage seems to fit the bill as far as the birth of James Bowyer goes doesn't it?

I've just asked Jayson if he will look up the birth of James at Tarvin in 1852 to see who his parents are.  If he can do it and it is Samuel and Hannah then we may have cracked it between us.  Cheesy

Now...where's me great grandad  Huh The man who never was before 1874  Grin

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Re: Marriage Look-Up: BOWYER with RIDING
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 15:26 BST (UK) »

Jayson has been very kind and looked up the marriage in the Parish register

Groom Samuel Boyer
Age full
Occupation Labourer
Abode Clotton
Father Matthew Boyer Labourer

Bride Hannah Williams
age full
condition Spinster
Occupation  none stated
Abode Bruen Stapleford -Parish of Tarvin
Father James Williams Labourer
Witnesses George ?(Williams) Harriet Billington

Many thanks to Jayson.

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Re: Marriage Look-Up: BOWYER with RIDING
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 15:51 BST (UK) »

Dear Jean, Su...and especially Jayson!

Thank you so so much for your tremendous help with this - I really appreciate it!
I've been away (gotta work some of the time!?) and only just saw this (thanks again Su for drawing my attention to it!).

This is a real breakthrough for me...you've made my otherwise hectic Wednesday a great day!

Susie  Grin
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Re: Marriage Look-Up: BOWYER with RIDING
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 16:52 BST (UK) »

Hi Su and Susie,

Wonderful, thanks to Jayson!  Do we know what the date of the marriage is?

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CHS: Barber(Tabley) Barlow(Antrobus) Blackshaw(Lymm, Mobberley) Blease/Done/Moore(G Bud) Owen(Netherton, Tabley) Spragg/Witter(Goostrey) Youd(Frodsham) Pennell Bankes Birchall Beckett
DBY: Higginbottom(Mellor)
HRT: Gurney
HRT/BED/ESS: Verney (Markyate St)
LAN: Davenport(Bolton) Schofield/Gurney(Oldham) Lord(Heap) Quinn(Manchester) Sutcliffe(Rossendale)
NTH: Tubb/Johnson(Hellidon)Brown(Kettering)
YKS: Scott(Clapham)
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Re: Marriage Look-Up: BOWYER with RIDING
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 17:00 BST (UK) »

Possible marriage for Matt!

Mathew BOYER m Sarah WALKER 20 Oct 1800 at Tarvin - might be a bit early....

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CHS: Barber(Tabley) Barlow(Antrobus) Blackshaw(Lymm, Mobberley) Blease/Done/Moore(G Bud) Owen(Netherton, Tabley) Spragg/Witter(Goostrey) Youd(Frodsham) Pennell Bankes Birchall Beckett
DBY: Higginbottom(Mellor)
HRT: Gurney
HRT/BED/ESS: Verney (Markyate St)
LAN: Davenport(Bolton) Schofield/Gurney(Oldham) Lord(Heap) Quinn(Manchester) Sutcliffe(Rossendale)
NTH: Tubb/Johnson(Hellidon)Brown(Kettering)
YKS: Scott(Clapham)
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Re: Marriage Look-Up: BOWYER with RIDING
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 17:03 BST (UK) »

1851 census, HO107 2171/280 Page 17, Clotton Hoofield:

Mathew BOWYER, Head, Mar, 78, Alms People Ag Labourer born Cheshire Duddon
Sarah BOWYER, Wife, Mar, 71, born Cheshire Clotton

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CHS: Barber(Tabley) Barlow(Antrobus) Blackshaw(Lymm, Mobberley) Blease/Done/Moore(G Bud) Owen(Netherton, Tabley) Spragg/Witter(Goostrey) Youd(Frodsham) Pennell Bankes Birchall Beckett
DBY: Higginbottom(Mellor)
HRT: Gurney
HRT/BED/ESS: Verney (Markyate St)
LAN: Davenport(Bolton) Schofield/Gurney(Oldham) Lord(Heap) Quinn(Manchester) Sutcliffe(Rossendale)
NTH: Tubb/Johnson(Hellidon)Brown(Kettering)
YKS: Scott(Clapham)
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Re: Marriage Look-Up: BOWYER with RIDING
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 14 May 08 17:09 BST (UK) »

Possible 1841, HO107 98/4/?  Page 1, Clotton Hoofield:

Mathew BOYER, 65, Ag Lab, Y
George BOYER, 15, Y
Sarah BOYER, 60, Y
Mary STOCKTON, 15, Y

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CHS: Barber(Tabley) Barlow(Antrobus) Blackshaw(Lymm, Mobberley) Blease/Done/Moore(G Bud) Owen(Netherton, Tabley) Spragg/Witter(Goostrey) Youd(Frodsham) Pennell Bankes Birchall Beckett
DBY: Higginbottom(Mellor)
HRT: Gurney
HRT/BED/ESS: Verney (Markyate St)
LAN: Davenport(Bolton) Schofield/Gurney(Oldham) Lord(Heap) Quinn(Manchester) Sutcliffe(Rossendale)
NTH: Tubb/Johnson(Hellidon)Brown(Kettering)
YKS: Scott(Clapham)
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