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DragonChylde
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1851-71 Census lookup please Cavill
« on: Friday 02 May 08 17:05 BST (UK) »

Hi,

Further to my other post below, can someone look up Richard & Frances Cavill on the 1851/61/71 census please?

This is them on the 1881 Census for High Street, Swinefleet (RG11/4700/4/2)

Richard CAVILL,   Head, 62, B. Holme On Spalding, Yorks
Frances CAVILL,   Wife, 57, B. Reedness, Yorks     
Hannah CAVILL, Daughter, 24, B. Swinefleet, Yorks
Louisa CAVILL,   Daughter, 20, B. Swinefleet, Yorks
Arthur CAVILL,   Son,  18, B. Swinefleet, Yorks
John Thomas CAVILL, Son,  13, B. Swinefleet, Yorks

Thanks again,

Ian
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Re: 1851-71 Census lookup please Cavill
« Reply #1 on: Friday 02 May 08 17:28 BST (UK) »

hi ian
1851 high st                                                             1871 richard grocer /carrier
                                                                                            francis  wife
richard cavill  31 grocer/baker                                          mary a 24 dressmaker
francis  cavill 27   wife                                                      george   22 moulder
george cavill  2 son                                                          jane  19
sarah  cavill cousin 13    servant                                      louisa 10
                                                                                         arthur  8
1861 richard /francis                                                         john 3
mary e  cavil 11
george cavill  12
jane cavill      9                                                                        still in high st

sarah f cavill 6                                                                                linda
hannah cavill  4     louisa  cavill 4 mths
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Re: 1851-71 Census lookup please Cavill
« Reply #2 on: Friday 02 May 08 17:30 BST (UK) »

hi ian  hope you can understand this lot
if you want copy pm me your e-mail addy
linda
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Re: 1851-71 Census lookup please Cavill
« Reply #3 on: Friday 02 May 08 17:51 BST (UK) »

Linda,

thanks for the look ups, I think I follow. Interestingly I had done a search for the Cavill surname in Goole on FreeBMD and come up with these other births:

Mary Elizabeth Cavill   Q1 1847   Goole XXIII 253
George Cavill   Q4 1848   Goole XXIII 246
Jane Ann Cavill   Q2 1851   Goole XXIII 319
John Watson Cavill   Q2 1853   Goole 9c 120
Sarah Frances Cavill   Q1 1855   Goole 9c 487

it certainly looks like George, Jane Ann and Sarah Frances are the same family... more avenues to chase.

Do you have Richard and Frances ages in 1861 & 71 please? I am trying to find Richards Birth; 1818/19 from his age on the 1881 census or 1819/20 from the 1851.... I will PM you too

Thanks so much, Ian
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Re: 1851-71 Census lookup please Cavill
« Reply #4 on: Friday 02 May 08 18:28 BST (UK) »

Linda,

Further to the Mary Elizabeth Cavill I found on FreeBMD

on the 1861 census could Mary E be aged 14?
on the 1871 census could Mary A be Mary E?

don't know why she isn't with the family on the 1851 census though....

Also there is a death for John Watson Cavill; Q3 1854 Goole 9c 315, so he could be another child too.

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Re: 1851-71 Census lookup please Cavill
« Reply #5 on: Friday 02 May 08 18:57 BST (UK) »

hi dragonclyde,
                       sorry mary e was 14 looked like 11
sent you  one where she is staying with grandparents
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Re: 1851-71 Census lookup please Cavill
« Reply #6 on: Friday 02 May 08 21:34 BST (UK) »

Hi Linda,

having trouble with the links... which Grandparents is Mary staying with in the 51 census please?

Ian
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Re: 1851-71 Census lookup please Cavill
« Reply #7 on: Friday 02 May 08 22:19 BST (UK) »

hi ian,
         think its her

1851  old goole (st johns goole)

george wreple  age 51   ag lab     born swinefleet
elizabeth wreple age 53 wife        born sandholme nr howden  yorks
charlotte wreple age 16  daugter  born goole
mary cavill  age 4  grandaughter   born goole  grocers daughter
sarah couper age 10 visiter  born goole ag labs daughter
linda
dont know why the links missed   any other ideas


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Re: 1851-71 Census lookup please Cavill
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 03 May 08 17:57 BST (UK) »

Linda,

that could be an interesting find, I searched IGI for Richard and found in Batch C012082 Richard Cavil christened 17 Jan 1820 only parent Elizabeth Cavil.

I wonder if Elizabeth went on to marry George Wreple....

thanks again for your help,
Ian
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Re: 1851-71 Census lookup please Cavill
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 03 May 08 21:01 BST (UK) »

hi ian,
        could be   
scanner playing up so cannot send 51-71 census for them
unless anybody else has them
have a  look for a marrriage for elizabeth and george
linda
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Re: 1851-71 Census lookup please Cavill
« Reply #10 on: Monday 05 May 08 19:19 BST (UK) »

Linda,

Thanks for the help... definitely more to research

Ian
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Re: 1851-71 Census lookup please Cavill
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 06 May 08 13:21 BST (UK) »

Hi Ian
I think I'm related to this Cavill family!

Richard is probably a cousin of my ancestor John Cavill.  All his family seem to come from the Sandholme/Howden and Goole/Hull areas, possibly before that "next door" in North Lincs.
Mary's grandparents are actually named Wressell/Wressle.  I believe you are correct that Elizabeth is Richard's mother Elizabeth Cavill who gave birth to Richard out of wedlock (I've seen the parish register for this, it was at the Holme workhouse) and later married George Wressell on 3rd May 1823 according to my notes.  I'd also found the Cowling connection.
I was also in touch with someone descended from Richard in the past - I'll see if I can get in touch with him!

Diana
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CAVILL (Yorkshire, Lancashire, Pennsylvania), BROWN (Yorks) SCOTT (Yorks) STANLEY (Staffs) TAVERNOR (Staffs) BLAKE (London, Wilts) FOGG (Derbyshire, Manchester)
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Re: 1851-71 Census lookup please Cavill
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 07 May 08 14:25 BST (UK) »

Hi Diana,

wow! well Richard Cavill & Frances Cowling are two of my GGG Grandparents through their daughter Louisa who married John Phillipson in 1887. Strangely that was his second marriage, his first marriage was to Hannah Carr Wressell (1859-1886) in 1879. A cousin to Louisa maybe? I haven't traced her further as yet.

I would love to see any other information you have for this part of the family, I've PM'd you too

Thanks for finding me,
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Re: 1851-71 Census lookup please Cavill
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 07 May 08 15:30 BST (UK) »

Hi Ian!

Thanks for this and your PM.  I've emailed you too.

I will dig out what I have, but life's hectic here at the moment and I've been concentrating on other areas lately so there's a bit of digging to do.

But be assured I will send you what I have!
A lot of it is what Linda has found too.

I haven't found many Cavill researchers!
Diana
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CAVILL (Yorkshire, Lancashire, Pennsylvania), BROWN (Yorks) SCOTT (Yorks) STANLEY (Staffs) TAVERNOR (Staffs) BLAKE (London, Wilts) FOGG (Derbyshire, Manchester)
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Re: 1851-71 Census lookup please Cavill
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 07 May 08 15:44 BST (UK) »

hi dragonchlyde,
                     glad to help, post on the site what you  find , be interested to know how you got on
linda
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