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heathpete
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Thank you for your time Joy and Sylvia. The Avoch site is wonderful to take a look at. Lots of great photos.
Finally I have something more on David and Margaret Jack. I was finding it a bit confusing having so many people with the same names to file through. This is great news. Thank you again. Heather
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Joyful
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Hi Heather 
This is what I've found out so far:
David JAck b 14 Sep 1871 Avoch
Father David Jack
Mother Margaret Jack m/s Jack ( cert sent to you)
David Jack married Margaret Jack 30 Sep 1853 Avoch occupation 'fisher' (info from OPR's & David's birth cert)
David Jack died 10 Mar 1883
Margaret Jack died 22 Jun 1906 (info for deaths from death certs off SP)
David snr b 9 Sep 1824 bap 18 Sep 1824
Father Donald Jack 'Certain'
Mother Flora Jack m/s Jack (info from OPR's and David jnr death cert)
Margaret Jack b 30 Sep 1832 bap 3 Oct 1832
Father Alexander Jack
Mother Catherine Jack m/s Jack ( info from IGI and Margaret's death cert)
I'll send the certs to you tonight
Regards
Joy
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Anderson R&C & Orkney, Jack, Patience, Hood R&C, McVicar Argll & Glasgow, Gourlay Glasgow, Docherty Glasgow, McNicol Argyll, Leask Orkney, Cumming Okney,
Tait Orkney, Brown Orkney, Sinclair Orkney, Craigie Orkney, Foulis Orkney, Beard Gloucester & Bundarra NSW, Pamplin Cambridge & NSW, Ashman Cambridge, McCarthy Ireland & Glen Innes NSW, Raleigh Ireland, Connelly Ireland, Waldron Ireland.
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heathpete
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Dear Joy,
You have brought tears to my eyes.I feel so emotional. My Father died a couple of years ago. He never spoke much about his family and we realised too late that we never asked many questions. We have no extended family here in Australia and don't really know relatives in the UK{ on my Father's side}. I tried contacting the Avoch web site mentioned above, to try and see if anyone remembered Dad and his family but the information that I finally got back, didn't really seem to fit.
I know I've said it before but thank you so very much.
Heather Jack
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Joyful
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Dear Heather
Don't get too emotional for there's more 
Donald Jack married Flora Jack 31 Oct 1821 Avoch & had the following children:
David Jack b 2 Sep 1824 bapt 18 Sep 1824 (Your GG/Grandfather)
Donald Jack b 20 Oct 1827 bapt 6 Dec 1827
Ann Jack b 25 Sep 1829 bapt 22 Nov 1829
Margaret Jack b 1 Oct 1831 bapt 28 Jul 1836
James Jack b 3 Jan 1833 bapt 28 Jul 1836 They obviously had bulk baptisms
Helen Jack b 15 Mar bapt 28 Jul 1836
Flora Jack b 25 Mar 1838 bapt 25 Aug 1844
Lewis Jack b 20 Mar 1840 bapt 29 Aug 1844
Simona Geddes MacLeay Jack b 2 Mar 1842 bapt 29 Aug 1844
The above info is all from the IGI and all extracted entries which means that they were taken from the actual parish records.
Have to go now and have tea will give you Alexander & Catherine's details later.
Joy
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Anderson R&C & Orkney, Jack, Patience, Hood R&C, McVicar Argll & Glasgow, Gourlay Glasgow, Docherty Glasgow, McNicol Argyll, Leask Orkney, Cumming Okney,
Tait Orkney, Brown Orkney, Sinclair Orkney, Craigie Orkney, Foulis Orkney, Beard Gloucester & Bundarra NSW, Pamplin Cambridge & NSW, Ashman Cambridge, McCarthy Ireland & Glen Innes NSW, Raleigh Ireland, Connelly Ireland, Waldron Ireland.
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heathpete
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Dear Joy,
Thank you. You have given me something to move on with now. I thought I had come to a full stop with Dad's side of the family but you have given me lots to work with. This has been truly wonderful.
Heather
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Joyful
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Me again Heather
Alexander Jack married Catherine Jack m/s Jack 8 Nov 1821 Avoch. I cannot view the OPR marriages on S P for 1821. They are available but only by ordering an extract for 10 GBPounds. Same applies to Donald and Flora's marriage, they give you the dates but you can't view them. The OPR's would probably/usually give you the wife's father's name.
In the meantime here are the children (may not be all) for Alexander and Catherine:
Alexander MacKenzie Jack b 16 Sep 1823 bapt 27 Sep 1823
Donald Jack b 1 May 1825 bapt 19 May 1825
Alexander JAck b 11 Aug 1828 bapt 21 Aug 1828
Catherine Jack b 21 Oct 1830 bapt 7 Jan 1831
Margaret Jack b 30 Sep 1832 bapt 3 Oct 1832 ( your GG/Grandmother )
Alexander Jack b 3 Jan 1835 bapt 23 Jan 1835
Simon Jack b 3 Jan 1835 bapt 23 Jan 1835 (Twins? )
Mary JAck b 12 Dec 1838 bapt 16 Feb 1839
Isabella Jack b 5 Nov 1841 bapt 8 Jan 1842
I hope that this will be of help to you
Joy
PS I'll start on the census hunt - perhaps tomorrow 
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Anderson R&C & Orkney, Jack, Patience, Hood R&C, McVicar Argll & Glasgow, Gourlay Glasgow, Docherty Glasgow, McNicol Argyll, Leask Orkney, Cumming Okney,
Tait Orkney, Brown Orkney, Sinclair Orkney, Craigie Orkney, Foulis Orkney, Beard Gloucester & Bundarra NSW, Pamplin Cambridge & NSW, Ashman Cambridge, McCarthy Ireland & Glen Innes NSW, Raleigh Ireland, Connelly Ireland, Waldron Ireland.
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heathpete
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Dear Joy,
You are a wonder. Thank you again. I hope you have a great weekend.I'm off to bed now. Hopefully all this new information won't keep me awake all night thinking it all through.
Thanks, Heather
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Joyful
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Hello Heather 
David Jack & Margaret Jack (Your GG/Grandparents) had the following children (may have been more)
Donald b 19 Nov 1854 bapt 2 Dec 1854 - infant death?
Alexander b 25 October 1856
Flora b 12 Feb 1859
Catherine b 30 Jun 1861
Donald b 15 October 1865
Margaret b 1 Apr 1867
David b 3 Sep 1869 - infant death?
David b 14 Sep 1871
All born Avoch. Info from IGI and census records.
Next posting will be the census details.
Joy
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Anderson R&C & Orkney, Jack, Patience, Hood R&C, McVicar Argll & Glasgow, Gourlay Glasgow, Docherty Glasgow, McNicol Argyll, Leask Orkney, Cumming Okney,
Tait Orkney, Brown Orkney, Sinclair Orkney, Craigie Orkney, Foulis Orkney, Beard Gloucester & Bundarra NSW, Pamplin Cambridge & NSW, Ashman Cambridge, McCarthy Ireland & Glen Innes NSW, Raleigh Ireland, Connelly Ireland, Waldron Ireland.
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Joyful
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Heather 1861 census info.
Shore Road Avoch. H/hold schedule 97
David Jack marr fisher head born Avoch 36yrs
Margaret Jack wife marr b Avoch 27yrs
Flora dau 2 yrs
Alexander would have been around 5 yrs, so perhaps he was staying with Grandparents etc.
1871 Census Avoch H/hold Sched 28
Sea Shore Road
Margaret Jack wife marr fishermans wife 38 yrs b Avoch
Alexander son unm b Avoch 14 yrs
Flora dau unm scholar b Avoch 12 yrs
Catherine unm dau b Avoch 9 yrs
Margaret unm dau b Avoch 4 yrs
David was possibly away fishing on census night.
I'll give you the 1881, 1891 & 1901 either tonight or tomorrow - have to eat now
Joy
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Anderson R&C & Orkney, Jack, Patience, Hood R&C, McVicar Argll & Glasgow, Gourlay Glasgow, Docherty Glasgow, McNicol Argyll, Leask Orkney, Cumming Okney,
Tait Orkney, Brown Orkney, Sinclair Orkney, Craigie Orkney, Foulis Orkney, Beard Gloucester & Bundarra NSW, Pamplin Cambridge & NSW, Ashman Cambridge, McCarthy Ireland & Glen Innes NSW, Raleigh Ireland, Connelly Ireland, Waldron Ireland.
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heathpete
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Dear Joy,
Sorry that you are spending so much time on this for me. It is fabulous though and I am extremely appreciative. You have made me very happy. I wish I was able to share all of this with Dad. When I saw on one of the certificates the address of"Factor Lane", I was over joyed ,as this was one of the things I did know, as Dad grew up in this house.
Thank you again so very much.
Heather
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Joyful
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Heather, please don't worry - I am delighted to be able to help you. The rest of the census info will follow tomorrow
Off to bed now - night sweet dreams
Joy
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Anderson R&C & Orkney, Jack, Patience, Hood R&C, McVicar Argll & Glasgow, Gourlay Glasgow, Docherty Glasgow, McNicol Argyll, Leask Orkney, Cumming Okney,
Tait Orkney, Brown Orkney, Sinclair Orkney, Craigie Orkney, Foulis Orkney, Beard Gloucester & Bundarra NSW, Pamplin Cambridge & NSW, Ashman Cambridge, McCarthy Ireland & Glen Innes NSW, Raleigh Ireland, Connelly Ireland, Waldron Ireland.
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Joyful
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Hi Heather
1881 Census for Avoch
5 Factory Lane
David Jack marr 55 yrs head Fisherman
Margaret Jack wife marr 47 yrs
Alexander Jack unm Fisherman 24 yrs son
Flora Jack 22 yrs unm Fisherman's dau
Donald Jack unm 17 yrs fisherman
Margaret Jack unm 14 yrs scholar dau
David Jack 9 yrs scholar son
All born Avoch
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Anderson R&C & Orkney, Jack, Patience, Hood R&C, McVicar Argll & Glasgow, Gourlay Glasgow, Docherty Glasgow, McNicol Argyll, Leask Orkney, Cumming Okney,
Tait Orkney, Brown Orkney, Sinclair Orkney, Craigie Orkney, Foulis Orkney, Beard Gloucester & Bundarra NSW, Pamplin Cambridge & NSW, Ashman Cambridge, McCarthy Ireland & Glen Innes NSW, Raleigh Ireland, Connelly Ireland, Waldron Ireland.
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Joyful
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Heather
1891 Census Avoch h/hold sched 18
1 Factory Lane
Margaret Jack widow 58 yrs Fishermans widow
Flora unm dau 31 yrs imbecile
David unm son 19 yrs fisherman
David was neither an employer nor an employee but was working on his own account.
This is the first indication that there was anything wrong with Flora, though there was provision for that description on the 1871 census. I wonder if perhaps she'd had an accident or illness between '71 & '81 census?
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Anderson R&C & Orkney, Jack, Patience, Hood R&C, McVicar Argll & Glasgow, Gourlay Glasgow, Docherty Glasgow, McNicol Argyll, Leask Orkney, Cumming Okney,
Tait Orkney, Brown Orkney, Sinclair Orkney, Craigie Orkney, Foulis Orkney, Beard Gloucester & Bundarra NSW, Pamplin Cambridge & NSW, Ashman Cambridge, McCarthy Ireland & Glen Innes NSW, Raleigh Ireland, Connelly Ireland, Waldron Ireland.
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Joyful
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Heather
1901 Census Avoch H/hold sched 25
6 Factory Lane
Margaret Jack widow 67 yrs
The above entry on the census is her son Donald & family also at 6 Factory Lane, so she was obviously living with them.
No sign of Flora, perhaps she died or was in an asylum.
I will send you the census images tonight or tomorrow.
Anything else I can help you with?
Joy
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Anderson R&C & Orkney, Jack, Patience, Hood R&C, McVicar Argll & Glasgow, Gourlay Glasgow, Docherty Glasgow, McNicol Argyll, Leask Orkney, Cumming Okney,
Tait Orkney, Brown Orkney, Sinclair Orkney, Craigie Orkney, Foulis Orkney, Beard Gloucester & Bundarra NSW, Pamplin Cambridge & NSW, Ashman Cambridge, McCarthy Ireland & Glen Innes NSW, Raleigh Ireland, Connelly Ireland, Waldron Ireland.
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heathpete
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Hi Joy,
You have been extremely busy.I've just finished work and now have a few days off to go through all this information. You have been too kind. Thank you again.
I feel so greedy asking you this but are you able to find out anything about David Jack's wife, Ann {Annie} Cowie. She was born 27/07/1874 to Alexander and Jane { Morrison} Cowie. She died 14/12/1953. I believe the Cowie's came from around Macduff or Banff maybe. She brought up my Father and he stayed with her until her death.
It makes you hungry to know more. It would be great to spend time with each of these people, to be able to put a face to these names and know a bit of their history.
I hope you have a great day. You have helped me and my family greatly. We'll have lots to talk about when we all get together this weekend.Thank you from all of us.
Heather
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