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MickBakunin
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Frederic Newman was born in about 1835 in Mount Bures Essex where he lived for at least the next 65 years. In 1855 he married Martha Smith. Frederic was a farmer. I am aware of seven children born starting with Gertrude in 1864, followed by Christopher in 1866. Were there other children born between 1856 and 1863?
Of most value would be the names of Frederic's parents.
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1871 RG10/1692 folio 129 page 8 Mount Bures Essex
Hammonos?? Farm
Frederic Newman age 36 Bures Hamlet Essex Farmer of 115 acres employing 4 lab
Martha wife age 35 Mount Bures Essex
Horace Francis son age 15 lab on land Mount Bures
Agnes Adelia dau age 14 Wakes Colne
Editha Agnes dau age 13 Wakes Colne
Osgar son age 10 Wakes Colne
Austustus John son age 9 Rest born Mount Bures Essex
Gertrude Augusta dau age 6
Christopher son age 5
Morley son age 3
Philip son age 1
Nellie Isabella dau age 11 months
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oakley, Leadbeater, Hemming, Jones, Pearsall, Page,------ Aston, Leominster, Balsall Heath, Tewkesbury, Kings Norton, Birmingham. census information are crown copyright of www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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1861 RG9/ 1104 folio 5 page 3 Wakes Colne Rochester Essex
Boarded Barn
Transcribed New Man with a gap.
Fredk Newman age 25 Farm Foreman everyone including Smiths born Wakes Colne
Martha wife age 25
Francis son age 5
Agnes dau age 4
Ann dau age 3 is she Editha Agnes?
Oscar son age 9 months
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Boarded Barn Cottage
John Smith age 40 ag lab
Ellen wife age 37
Jane dau age 16 servant
Arthur son age 13
Henry son age 9
William son age 7
Joseph son age 1
Harrigate? dau age 4
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oakley, Leadbeater, Hemming, Jones, Pearsall, Page,------ Aston, Leominster, Balsall Heath, Tewkesbury, Kings Norton, Birmingham. census information are crown copyright of www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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1851 H0107/1782 folio 569 page 14 Wakes Colne Rochester Essex
Boarded Barn
John Newman age 41 Farmer and Miller Mount Bures Essex
Mary wife age 37 Mount bures Essex
Caroline dau age 18 rest born Bures Hamlet
Frederick Newman son age 16 employed on farm
Christopher son age 15
Esther dau age 12
Maria dau age 10
George son age 8
Joseph son age 5
Alfred son age 3
Pam
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oakley, Leadbeater, Hemming, Jones, Pearsall, Page,------ Aston, Leominster, Balsall Heath, Tewkesbury, Kings Norton, Birmingham. census information are crown copyright of www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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1841 H0107/331/15 folio 7 page 10 St Mary Bures Hinckford Essex reg district Sudbury sub reg district Bures
Wakes Green
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John Newman age 30 Miller all born in county
Mary Newman age 25
Caroline Newman age 8
Frederick Newman age 5
Christopher Newman age 4
Esther Newman age 2
Maria Newman age 9 months
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Thomas Newman age 67 Farmer
Rebecka Newman age 65
Abraham Newman age 35
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Ann Crussell age 18 FS
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Whaley?Green
John Smith age 57 Blacksmith
Hannah Smith age 5?
Samuel Smith age 15
Thomas Smith age 10
Charles Smith age 7
Henry Smith age 4
Pam
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oakley, Leadbeater, Hemming, Jones, Pearsall, Page,------ Aston, Leominster, Balsall Heath, Tewkesbury, Kings Norton, Birmingham. census information are crown copyright of www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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1841 H0107/334/11 folio 7 page 8 Mount Bures Lexden Essex
Greenwells?
James Smith age 45 ag lab all born in county
Sophia Smith age 40
James Smith junior age 20
John Smith age 20
Joseph Smith age 17
William Smith age 15
Mary Smith age 12
Sarah Smith age 8
Latisha Smith age 4
Elizabeth Smith age 4 months
Martha Smith age 6
1851 H0107/1782 folio 585 page 13 Mount Bures Essex
Mount Bures
James Smith age 57 farm lab Wakes Colne Essex
Sophia wife age 50 born Fordham Essex
Joseph son age 27 Wakes Colne farm lab
William son age 25 Mount Bures farm lab
Sarah dau age 17 Mount Bures
Letitia dau age 13 Mount Bures
would you believe there are 2 other William Smiths living near by
next door
William Smith age 32
Jemmiah wife and chilldren Eliza,George and Louisa
next door
William Smith age 36 wife Ann children Mary Sarah Charles and John
Looking for Martha age 16
Pam
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Here is Martha Smith, her mother comes from Fordham
1851 H0107/1782 folio 616 page 14 Fordham Essex
Fordham
Letitia Bours age 65 Annuitant born Fordham
Martha Smith age 15 companion born Mount Bures
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Hello
The 1861 census at Wakes Colne the John Smith next door age 40 looks like Martha's brother John
1861 RG9/1128 folio 72 page 18 Bures Essex
Chapel Head
John Newman age 52 Miller and farmer of 40 acres of land employing 2 men born Mount Bures
Mary wife age 47 Mount Bures
Caroline dau age 27domestic assistant Bures Hamlet
George son age 18 farm lab Bures Hamlet
Alfred son age 13 Bures Hamlet
Ann dau age 8 Wakes Colne
Lonzo Newman grandson age 4 Bures Hamlet
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Abraham Newman age 54 farmer of 50 acres employing 4 men mount Bures
Sarah wife age 45 Suffolk
Edgar son age 16 Bures Hamlet
Alfred son age 14 Bures Hamlet
Jacob son age 11 Bures Hamlet
Arthur son age 9 Bures Hamlet
Edwin son age 6 Mount Bures
Sarah Ann dau age 4 Mount Bures
Here is Joseph Newman in Wakes Colne like Frederic
1861 RG9/1104 folio 12 page 18 Wakes Colne Essex
Wakes Mill
George Baker age 40 Miller ?? crusher born Meiksdiegh?? Suffolk
Harriet wife age 42 brockash Norfolk
Ann Thompson vsitor age 39 Lady born Brockash Norfolk
Sarah potter house servant Wakes Colne
Joseph Newman age 15 Miller born Mount Bures Essex
Hope this is of some help
Pam
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hello
Transcribed Nussman but the Newmans next door were transcribed correctly
1871 RG10/1715 folio 26 page 11 Bures Essex
?? Green Mill
Mary Newman age 48?? widow born Mount Bures Miller and farmer of 90 acres employing 3 men
Caroline Newman age 37 dau Bures Hamlet
Joseph age 25 son Miller Bures Hamlet
Alfred son age 23 farmers son Bures Hamlet
Ann dau age 19 Wakes Colne
Alonzo Newman grandson age 14 Bures Hamlet
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Newmans farm
Sarah newman widow age 55 farmer 40 acres/lab Winston Suffolk transcribed Staffordshire
Edgar farmers son age 26 Bures Hamlet
Jacob age 21 farmers son Bures Hamlet
Arthur farmers son age 19 Bures Hamlet
Edwin farmers son age 16 Mount Bures
Sarah Ann farmers dau age 14 Mount Bures
Maria Robeck? visitor age 60 married Mount Bures
1881 Mount Bures
Colne Road
Mary Newman age 67 widower born Mount Bures
Caroline Newman age 47 dressmaker Bures Hamlet
Pam
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here is Alonzo grandson. whose child is he? Need to get the birth or marriage certificate to find out was he Christophers, Fredericks brothers child or illegitimate? The other Newmans seem to stay in the Miller trade also.
1881 Sudbury St Gregory Suffolk
Alonzo Newman age 24 born Mount Bures Essex Miller journeyman
Agnes wife age 24 Wakes Colne
Fredk son age 1 Colchester Essex
1881
Hammonds Farm
Frederick Newman age 46 widower farmer 114 acres all born Mount Bures
Gertrude daughter age 16
Christopher son age 14
Morley son age 13
Philip son age 11
Nella? Hilda??? dau age 10
Asa son age 9
1891 Rg12/1416 folio 63 page 7 Mount Bures Essex
Hammonds Farm
Frederick Newman age 56 widower all born Mount Bures
Gertrude dau age 26
Morley son age 23
Philip son age 21
Netta dau age 20
Aso son age 19
Maud dau age 15 where did she come from? not on the 1881 list
1901 RG13/1718 folio 65 page 5 Mount Bures Essex
Hammonds Mt Bures
Frederick Newman age 65 widower all born Mount Bures
Gertrude Augusta dau age 35 fathers housekeeper
Morley Aaron farmers son age 33
Philip Frederick farmers son age 31
Maud Ada dau age 25
1901 RG13/1718 folio 67 page 9 Mount Bures Essex
Mill House
Joseph Newman age 56 Farmer & Miller Mount Bures
Eleanor wife age 46 Birch Essex
William son age 19 farmers son rest born Mount Bures
Florence Ada dau age 15
Frederick son age 9
Kate dau age 9
Mary or May? Eleanor dau age 4
Netta Isabel Newman niece age 29 born Mount Bures farmers daughter
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Marriages
Alonzo Newman married Agnes newman? dec quarter 1878 Colchester Essex 4a 597 was Agnes Fredericks daughter? Agnes Adelia?
Looks like Fredericks daughter was Editha Anna not Editha Agnes this must be why she was called Ann on one of the census.
Editha Anna Newman married William Samuel Chaplin dec quarter 1879 tendring Essex 4a 531
1881 Ramsay Essex Reg district Tendring
Roydon Hall Cottage
William Chaplin age 23 domestic servant St Mulham?? Suffolk
Editha transcribed Edith wife age 23 born Mount Bures Essex
Marth dau age 10 months
Louisa Page or Sage visitor age 15
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Osgar Newman married Ellen Elizabeth Hampstead sept quarter 1885 Lexden Essex 4a 669
same page
Looks like her mother Eliza Hampstead married Edward lock
1891 RG1/ folio page West bergholt Village Essex reg district Lexden
Transcribed Oszar newman born Mount Bruers Suffolk
Edward Lock age 36 ag lab West Bergholt
Eliza Lock age 55 wife born GT Horseley Essex Laundress
a few families up
Osgar Newman age 30 ag lab Mount Bures Suffolk
Elizabeth wife age 23 rest born West Bergholt
May dau age 4
Arthur son age 2
Lilly dau age 8 months
Frederic Newman married Martha Smith sept quarter Lexden essex 4a 335
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Hello Found Maud from the 1891 census dau of Frederick Newman in West Bergholt where Osgar Newman ended up.
1881 West Bergholt Essex reg district Lexden sub reg district fordham
William Allston age 56 bootmaker West Bergholt
Sophia wife age 50 Mount Bures Essex
Horace J Allston son age 22 Carter born West Begholt
Oscar Allston age 18 son Bootmaker West Bergholt
Maud Newman niece age 5 born Fordham Essex
William Allston married Sophia Smith March quarter 1850 Lexden Essex 12 143
Cannot fit Sophia in the 1841 census with Martha her mother was called Sophia also. Sophia fits in between Mary and Sarah Smith 1841
This could be her
1841 H0107/335/7 folio 12 page 2 Wates Colne Essex
Jordons? Farm?
Wates? Wakes Colne
James Wilton age 55 farmer
Catherine age 35
Catherine age 4
Joseph age 10 months
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Hannah Briggs Ind not born in county
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Jordons farm
Ann Damond age 15 FS
Sophia Smith age 11 FS
Frederic Dunscomb age 16 MS
James Drumscomb age 12
1851 H0107/1782 folio 657 page 48
Wm Alston age 26 West Bergholt Cordwainer
Sophia age 21 born Mount Bures Essex
Harriet dau age 3 months
1861 RG9/1104 folio 107 page 16 West Bergholt Essex
William Alstone transcribed Alstine age 36 West Bergholt shoemaker
Sophia wife age 31 Wates Colne Essex
Emily dau age 6 rest born West Bergholt
George son age 4
Horace son age 3
Richard son age 1
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Cornelias Alstone head age 21 ag lab
Maria wife age 21
Henry R son age 3
Albert son age 1
Francis son age 7 months
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Lawson Alstone age 38 ag lab
Eliza wife age 35
Emma dau age 13
Thomas son age 11
Alfred son age 8
John son age 4
1871 RG10/1692 folio 103 page 12 West Bergholt Essex
William Allston age 46 shoemaker West Bergholt
Sopha wife age 41 Wakes Colne
Emily dau age 16 rest born West Bergholt
Horace son age 13
Richard son age 11
Oscar son age 8
1891 West Bergholt Essex RG12/1416 folio 118 page 20
Eliza Allston head age 55 widow born West Bergholt
Eliza Balls grandaughter age 22 Laundress West Bergholt
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William Allston age 67 B & Shoemaker now all are born West Bergholt
Sophia Allston age 61
Horace F Allston son age 32 Carter
Oscar Allston son age 28 Carter
1901 RG13/1717 folio 23 page 14 West Bergholt Essex
White House Road
Oscar Allston age 38 Turf Contractor and Carter employer born West Bergholt
Emily wife age 33 Little Horkeley Essex
Florence E dau age 6 rest born Bergholt
Reginald O son age 4
Esther B dau age 2
Stanley E C son age 6 months
Edith Simpson servant
Ernest M Atkins lodger age 26 officer of Inland Revenue Birmingham
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Hi Pam,
Thank you for all your time and work. I will do my best to sort out the 12? children that Frederic and Martha produced.
I will see what I can find out about Frederic Newman (1835)'s parents, John Newman, miller, and his wife Mary, from other sources.
Frederic Newman (1835) and Martha Smith's child, Christopher Newman (1866) went to London where he was employed as a Jobmaster's coachman. Christopher appears as Charles in the 1901 census. Christopher Newman married Jessie Allen in 1898, and their son Frederic Allen Newman (1899) went to Canada, or came to Canada if you look at things from my end.
Michael
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One final request for information from the 1851 census:
Thomas Newman (1774 - 1851) married Rebecca Hayward (1774 - 1858).
Thomas & Rebecca appear in the 1851 census (I have seen an index entry for them). Where did they say they were born? Another souce mentions "Thomas Newman, miller of Boxted".
Thanks, Pam, to your earlier replies, I can confirm that their son John Newman (born 1810) married Mary Salmon in 1831 in Mount Bures.
In addition, I will try to link the Newman family in my look-up request to another Newman family in Mount Bures.
Abraham Newman purchased the manor of Mount Bures in 1790. When he died in 1798 the estate passed to his daughter Anne, who married George Caswell, so the male Newman line was no longer residing at the manor. Abraham's father was Thomas Newman. Thomas married Ann Constable see http://www.bures-online.co.uk/constable/Constable.htm
Michael
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